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Engagement Ring - Diamond Budget of below $6000

P: 10/1/2007 10:57:00 AM
knootz Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 10/2/2007 Member Since: 7/17/2007	I'm looking for an ideal cut round diamond for an engagement ring. Hope to get a stone that is about 1ct, F-G colour with clarity between VS2 to eye clean SI1. Ideally, stone should not cost more than $6,000. Appreciate any help and suggestions here as I'm overwhelmed by all information and statistics to look out for.
Posted: 10/1/2007 10:57:00 AM

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P: 10/1/2007 11:06:25 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Hi knootz, Here's a great one, and a great company to work with. Bankwire price is 5840.23 http://204.17.89.15/diamond/3002/ Ask if eyeclean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 10/1/2007 11:06:25 AM

P: 10/1/2007 12:09:59 PM
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002	This would be my top pick: 1.00 G, VS2 for $5917 PS price. Another possibility - 1.05, G, SI1 for $6356 PS price - this one slightly more than your budget, but also slightly larger. _____________________ Note: Chainsaw Not Sold Separately.
Posted: 10/1/2007 12:09:59 PM

P: 10/1/2007 12:50:08 PM
leapinghorse Rough Rock Total Posts: 67 Last Post: 7/1/2008 Member Since: 4/30/2007	I would drop to H in color and increase the size. I know many people are quick to recommend only ACA stones, but make sure to use the "price comparison" search feature. There are gorgeous stones out there that are on the virtual inventory lists. You just have to seek them out. I found these three quickly: http://www.uniondiamond.com/diamonds/diamonds.php?item_id=AA515502&search_type_id=2&action_type_id=2&network_id=0cf05810a0f83094f6e9972ef21cdd34# http://www.uniondiamond.com/diamonds/diamonds.php?item_id=AA439127&search_type_id=2&action_type_id=2&network_id=0cf05810a0f83094f6e9972ef21cdd34# http://www.uniondiamond.com/diamonds/diamonds.php?item_id=AA507641&search_type_id=2&action_type_id=2&network_id=0cf05810a0f83094f6e9972ef21cdd34# They are also all available through Whiteflash (I linked to uniondiamond since you can view the cert there). WF can get the stones shipped to them, take idealscope images and give you an analysis before you buy. They all score well on the HCA and are about .2 carats bigger than the other stones mentioned. Again, this was a quick search by me, but it shows you that there are great stones out there that aren't "branded" which can save you some dough. Hope that helps
Posted: 10/1/2007 12:50:08 PM

P: 10/1/2007 12:56:52 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Alj picked some good ones, and that VS2 is a nice option if mine isn't eyeclean, I actually saw those in my search. But I still picked the one I did because it's a branded stone (just not advertised) and it's less. And yes, dropping to H would allow a bit more size. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 10/1/2007 12:56:52 PM

P: 10/1/2007 1:34:37 PM
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002	Date: 10/1/2007 12:50:08 PM Author: leapinghorse I would drop to H in color and increase the size. I know many people are quick to recommend only ACA stones, but make sure to use the 'price comparison' search feature. There are gorgeous stones out there that are on the virtual inventory lists. You just have to seek them out. They are also all available through Whiteflash (I linked to uniondiamond since you can view the cert there). WF can get the stones shipped to them, take idealscope images and give you an analysis before you buy. They all score well on the HCA and are about .2 carats bigger than the other stones mentioned. Again, this was a quick search by me, but it shows you that there are great stones out there that aren't 'branded' which can save you some dough. Hope that helps While it's true that there may be great stones available on the virtual inventory lists, it's not a given that those stones will translate to 'saving dough'. While the price of an inhouse stone can be a bit higher, I believe that's balanced by not having to pay for shipping and examination of stones that may or may not prove worthwhile. Keep in mind that when vendors bring stones in for you, it costs them in shipping. If you ultimately buy the stone, you may not be asked to cover the shipping. However, if you don't take them, you often have to cover the round-trip shipping charges. Also, not all inhouse stones are 'branded'. The first stone I linked to in my post above was not a branded stone; rather, it was an "Expert Selection".....i.e. value for the money. No one method is right or wrong, of course, but it's important for the potential consumer to know that there are costs associated with bringing stones in, and that might cause them to gravitate toward stones that are already inhouse. _____________________ Note: Chainsaw Not Sold Separately.
Posted: 10/1/2007 1:34:37 PM

P: 10/2/2007 11:02:40 AM
knootz Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 10/2/2007 Member Since: 7/17/2007	Thanks for all the suggestion...i love this forum!!! I am a bit hesitant to go down to colour H as rightfully (or wrongly) I prefer to go down on something that is not visible (clarity) to achieve higher colour that i think i will be able to see. What's your opinion on the following: Carat weight: 1.10ct Colour: F Clarity: SI 1 (eye clean) Table: 56.7% Crown Angle: 34.6 Pavillion Angle: 40.8 Total Depth: 61.1 Girdle: Thin to Medium Flourescence: Neg. Measurement: 6.656.674.07 This appears to be a good deal for a bigger stone with higher colour. Best of all, this is within my budget but am not sure if the measurement of 4.07 is a bit too deep and will the neg. flourescence give me any problem? Appreciate any comments as I will not have the benefit of seeing the stone in person. Many thanks.
Posted: 10/2/2007 11:02:40 AM

P: 10/2/2007 3:59:15 PM
Lord Summerisle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 859 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 12/14/2004	Date: 10/2/2007 11:02:40 AM Author: knootz Thanks for all the suggestion...i love this forum!!! I am a bit hesitant to go down to colour H as rightfully (or wrongly) I prefer to go down on something that is not visible (clarity) to achieve higher colour that i think i will be able to see. That question about colour, can only be answered by you seeing stones of differant colours and seeing if you can see a differance, tho i appreciate that can be difficult, that said, if your happy to go with a higher colour and lower clarity, but without sacrificing the eye clean look then that is perfect - but at the end of the day it is you and your other half who will be happy with your purchase What's your opinion on the following: Carat weight: 1.10ct Colour: F Clarity: SI 1 (eye clean) Table: 56.7% Crown Angle: 34.6 Pavillion Angle: 40.8 Total Depth: 61.1 Girdle: Thin to Medium Flourescence: Neg. Measurement: 6.656.674.07 This appears to be a good deal for a bigger stone with higher colour. Best of all, this is within my budget but am not sure if the measurement of 4.07 is a bit too deep and will the neg. flourescence give me any problem? Appreciate any comments as I will not have the benefit of seeing the stone in person. Many thanks. 4.07 isnt a problem, total depth is 61.1% which is nothing at all to worry about when you consider that the 'ideal' range is 59ish - 62.5ish% neg. flour means negligable... again nothing to worry about it just means its a real diamond (synthetic diamonds dont react to UV light) _____________________ I Post Therefore I Am I am no Expert (I'm not a drip under pressure ;) ) Seek Someone who is for better info
Posted: 10/2/2007 3:59:15 PM

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