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 Does WF set other diamonds in their setting?

P:  10/1/2007 4:55:46 AM  
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Hi

Just a quick question, does anyone know if WF sets other diamonds in their earring settings? 
I know I could ask them, but I feel like I have allready asked them a ton of questions and they have been very patient, so I dodnt want to bother them, unless I need to.

So, do you know if I can send diamonds from another source to them to be set into earrings??  I love their setting, but the diamonds I am looking at I can get cheaper elsewere, and means the difference between getting the earrings this year, or waiting a bit longer for a more sensible time.

Thanks
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Posted:  10/1/2007 4:55:46 AM

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P: 10/1/2007 5:11:00 AM
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I think it is best to ask them personally, don't worry about asking them, the crew at WF are fantastic and will be pleased to help you!!









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Posted:  10/1/2007 5:11:00 AM
P: 10/1/2007 7:36:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure they will but they do charge a setting fee, from what I understand. But I agree with Lorelei-it's definitely best to ask them directly. I'm sure they won't mind-that's what the sales reps are there for!

Posted:  10/1/2007 7:36:37 AM
P: 10/1/2007 8:34:03 AM
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Yes I think they will set diamonds brought in from else where. I know for e-rings they make you insure the diamond before they start working with it then there is a setting fee.

Posted:  10/1/2007 8:34:03 AM
P: 10/1/2007 11:08:20 AM
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Date: 10/1/2007 8:34:03 AM
Author: safilyn
 I know for e-rings they make you insure the diamond before they start working with it...

Absolving responsibility I could imagine, but insisting on insurance?

Posted:  10/1/2007 11:08:20 AM
P: 10/1/2007 11:12:03 AM
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Quote take directly from the Whiteflash website:

"If a customer buys a setting from our line of Whiteflash Designs we require a diamond purchased elsewhere to be sent in to be set (diamond must be insured by owner) and a setting charge will apply."

#4. at the following link under the FAQ > Diamonds and Settings section:

http://www.whiteflash.com/newsite/diamonds_info/t/faq.aspx?articleid=69&zoneid=6

Posted:  10/1/2007 11:12:03 AM
P: 10/1/2007 11:39:58 AM
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This suggests to me that a responsibility waiver must mean nothing, and WF is hoping a client will pursue an insurance claim instead of them.

Sounds messy considering the majority of insurance policies don't cover loose stones.

I wonder just how many diamonds fracture despite utmost care taken during setting, especially if tricky jobs are rejected in the first place?


Posted:  10/1/2007 11:39:58 AM
P: 10/1/2007 12:13:08 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 11:39:58 AM
Author: stebbo

This suggests to me that a responsibility waiver must mean nothing, and WF is hoping a client will pursue an insurance claim instead of them.


Did your mother ever tell you not to run with scissors?    It's good advice, which she hoped would be unnecessary.

You might be surprised at how many jewelers will work on an outside diamond or piece of jewelry without a clear understanding of liability in the rare case that there is an accident.  We err on the side of caution and are up-front about it.  Our first choice is that the stone is covered.  If not we may still work on it with an understanding about liability.  Every case is different and we welcome a call to discuss particulars. 



I wonder just how many diamonds fracture despite utmost care taken during setting, especially if tricky jobs are rejected in the first place?

We can’t speak for everyone but it’s close to none in our workshop, and should be a rarity with any skilled setter.  Still, no matter how flawless the track record, we feel it’s prudent to be clear on the issue.  Even one incident is too many.  A diamond is not just a statistic; it’s something personal and emotional to someone.  Even if it seems overcautious (like don't run with scissors) we want to address it in any outside case we take on.

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Posted:  10/1/2007 12:13:08 PM
P: 10/1/2007 12:48:08 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 12:13:08 PM
Author: JohnQuixote




Did your mother ever tell you not to run with scissors? It's good advice, which she hoped would be unnecessary.


Yeah that, and not to lick the knife. So of course I did both, at the same time, jumping up and down stairs just to see if it was truly dangerous (aw, and too intentionally piss mum off).








Our first choice is that the stone is covered. If not we may still work on it with an understanding about liability. Every case is different and we welcome a call to discuss particulars.


Ok, that makes a lot more sense.

(You ran with scissors too right?)

Posted:  10/1/2007 12:48:08 PM
P: 10/1/2007 12:52:48 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 12:13:08 PM
Author: JohnQuixote


Date: 10/1/2007 11:39:58 AM
Author: stebbo

This suggests to me that a responsibility waiver must mean nothing, and WF is hoping a client will pursue an insurance claim instead of them.




Did your mother ever tell you not to run with scissors? It's good advice, which she hoped would be unnecessary.

You might be surprised at how many jewelers will work on an outside diamond or piece of jewelry without a clear understanding of liability in the rare case that there is an accident. We err on the side of caution and are up-front about it. Our first choice is that the stone is covered. If not we may still work on it with an understanding about liability. Every case is different and we welcome a call to discuss particulars.





I wonder just how many diamonds fracture despite utmost care taken during setting, especially if tricky jobs are rejected in the first place?

We can’t speak for everyone but it’s close to none in our workshop, and should be a rarity with any skilled setter. Still, no matter how flawless the track record, we feel it’s prudent to be clear on the issue. Even one incident is too many. A diamond is not just a statistic; it’s something personal and emotional to someone. Even if it seems overcautious (like don't run with scissors) we want to address it in any outside case we take on.




Seems like a responsible position to me; well presented.

Lots of detail on the not-necessarily fun but way to get the insurance job done is presented here on Pricescope.  I'll bet WF would help on their end of that part (re the valuation for the ring).

Stebbo, careful licking those knives!


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Posted:  10/1/2007 12:52:48 PM
P: 10/1/2007 1:00:26 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 12:48:08 PM
Author: stebbo

(You ran with scissors too right?)

I ran with drumsticks.  Also dangerous but less painful to lick.  Mmmm...maple.

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Posted:  10/1/2007 1:00:26 PM
P: 10/1/2007 1:02:48 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 12:52:48 PM
Author: Regular Guy

Lots of detail on the not-necessarily fun but way to get the insurance job done is presented here on Pricescope.

Any idea if JM ever updated their (consumer) policy wording to express coverage for loose stones being set?

Posted:  10/1/2007 1:02:48 PM
P: 10/1/2007 1:07:38 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 1:02:48 PM
Author: stebbo


Date: 10/1/2007 12:52:48 PM
Author: Regular Guy

Lots of detail on the not-necessarily fun but way to get the insurance job done is presented here on Pricescope.

Any idea if JM ever updated their (consumer) policy wording to express coverage for loose stones being set?


Great question.  They only promised October. Let's give them the month.

edited to add...especially since we're talking about WF, here, and they do have that Touchstone link on their site...Denver appraiser says he heard they have a similar policy.  I'd suggest that's another process to at least explore, anyway.

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Posted:  10/1/2007 1:07:38 PM
P: 10/1/2007 1:09:42 PM
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Date: 10/1/2007 1:00:26 PM
Author: JohnQuixote

I ran with drumsticks. Also dangerous but less painful to lick.
 
I agree, too many antibiotics in chicken these days...

Posted:  10/1/2007 1:09:42 PM

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