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P: 9/13/2007 3:48:00 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,303 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	I'm having thoughts about upgrades and called the vendor about possible stones. Let's just say for now that both are well cut - trust me, they are branded stones. I will post the specs when I get them but they are very new so I don't have other information to share other than carat weight, colour and clarity. As I said before, I know my cut stuff, plus they are branded stones so I think both will be very gorgeous. Okay, that said, which would you prefer (comparing apples to apples) and why: a. 1.14 J VS2 b. 1.11 I SI2 (assuming eye clean) Just curious. No idea if any of the stones have blue fluoro.
Posted: 9/13/2007 3:48:00 PM

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P: 9/13/2007 3:59:01 PM
Green with Envy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 767 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 6/25/2007	Ok- you already know this is not enough info...BUT my first question is about dimensions rather tha ct weight. Do both stones look to be about exact same size? I figure they do. Ok- if both are same size- AND SI2 is absolutely very very very eye clean... i would go with the better color grade all the way. If the SI2 has some black mark under table or something- forget the stone. Now if the 1.14 dimensions are obviously larger than 1.11- decision is more difficult because depends if you notice warmth and like this look. I know folks will say maybe can not tell difference between I and J- but all day long even in best cut diamonds I seem to be able to pick the G compared to H. If I can do this- I assume others can tell visual difference between I and J. Thus- this is why I would go for better color if visual size and clarity only seem different on paper. ********************** The BIG day... June 25, 2010! **********************
Posted: 9/13/2007 3:59:01 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:00:22 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I'd go for the I (IF eyeclean), just because there's a little less chance of seeing color, and the size difference will probaby be negligable. Now, if one had stong or VS flo, I might change my mind. Can't wait to hear more! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:00:22 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:07:50 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,303 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	Green and Ellen, Thanks for the quick replies. I've already got 2 J stones close to the 1 carat mark so I'm all right with the warmth (plus I really can't see the warmth unless they are right next to my F EC). Yes, I need to know the depth % and dimensions before making the decision, plus the SI2 needs to be very clean. So, in this scenario, I'm pretending that the dimensions are the same and both stones are eye clean. If either one has blue fluoro, well...I'm taking it in a heartbeat.
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:07:50 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:21:38 PM
Green with Envy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 767 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 6/25/2007	YEA!! That jubillee video from GOG really got your heart pumping, huh? I do not blame you- very very nice! ********************** The BIG day... June 25, 2010! **********************
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:21:38 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:23:58 PM
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004	HI: The cheapest one!!!! I have two branded, sooper pooper dooper ideal cut I1's set in earrings that seem pretty darn eyeclean to "my" eyes, so I bet that S12 would be pretty darn good; hence, I'd take the higher color. cheers--Sharon "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off".
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:23:58 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:32:16 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/13/2007 4:23:58 PM Author: canuk-gal HI: The cheapest one!!!! I have two branded, sooper pooper dooper ideal cut I1's set in earrings that seem pretty darn eyeclean to 'my' eyes, so I bet that S12 would be pretty darn good; hence, I'd take the higher color. cheers--Sharon That was actually listed as the cut?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:32:16 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:32:28 PM
Green with Envy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 767 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 6/25/2007	Very good point made- based on your personal color commnets...I second the idea of going with the cheapest. ********************** The BIG day... June 25, 2010! **********************
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:32:28 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:36:33 PM
canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004	Date: 9/13/2007 4:32:16 PM Author: Ellen Date: 9/13/2007 4:23:58 PM Author: canuk-gal HI: The cheapest one!!!! I have two branded, sooper pooper dooper ideal cut I1's set in earrings that seem pretty darn eyeclean to 'my' eyes, so I bet that S12 would be pretty darn good; hence, I'd take the higher color. cheers--Sharon That was actually listed as the cut?? HI: Oh Miss Ellen--how can you doubt me???? (OK OK it only said it was sooper dooper....) "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off".
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:36:33 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:47:57 PM
UCLABelle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,350 Last Post: 10/30/2009 Member Since: 5/15/2005	I would go for the "I" if the SI2 is really eye-clean, and I may pick it even if not (although, this is assuming there is no fluorescence). I notice color in diamonds pretty easy, and enjoy a nice white or warm white diamond. J normally seems too tinted for me.
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:47:57 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:48:11 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/13/2007 4:36:33 PM Author: canuk-gal HI: Oh Miss Ellen--how can you doubt me???? (OK OK it only said it was sooper dooper....) Uh huh. I thought as much. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:48:11 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,303 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	You ladies crack me up. Darn it, I didn't want to say it's a Jubilee but since its out now... Yes, that's what I am looking at. Yup, the I SI2 is the cheaper one but not really by much and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't too deep, the table isn't too large and that it is eye clean. I guess this can be considered a sooper pooper dooper ideal cut? Or is it just a sooper dooper cut?
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:57:10 PM
Green with Envy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 767 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 6/25/2007	Oh darling! I did not let the cat out of the bag...we all KNEW what you were talking about. We pay attention! .70 upgrade to over 1 ct. It is going to be stunning! ********************** The BIG day... June 25, 2010! **********************
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:57:10 PM

P: 9/13/2007 4:59:36 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM Author: Chrono You ladies crack me up. Darn it, I didn't want to say it's a Jubilee but since its out now... Yes, that's what I am looking at. Yup, the I SI2 is the cheaper one but not really by much and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't too deep, the table isn't too large and that it is eye clean. I guess this can be considered a sooper pooper dooper ideal cut? Or is it just a sooper dooper cut? Might as well make it the former, Sharon did. When ya gonna get more info? Huh? Huh? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:59:36 PM

P: 9/13/2007 5:05:00 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,303 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	Sometime in early October, so I hear.
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:05:00 PM

P: 9/13/2007 5:08:41 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	WHAT? we have to wait almost a month?? poo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:08:41 PM

P: 9/13/2007 5:09:53 PM
thing2of2 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,660 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 1/1/2007	Date: 9/13/2007 4:00:22 PM Author: Ellen I'd go for the I (IF eyeclean), just because there's a little less chance of seeing color, and the size difference will probaby be negligable. Now, if one had stong or VS flo, I might change my mind. Can't wait to hear more! I ditto Ellen! Especially since you say further down that the I/SI2 is cheaper!
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:09:53 PM

P: 9/13/2007 5:16:54 PM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,823 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Date: 9/13/2007 4:00:22 PM Author: Ellen I'd go for the I (IF eyeclean), just because there's a little less chance of seeing color, and the size difference will probaby be negligable. Now, if one had stong or VS flo, I might change my mind. Can't wait to hear more! I am w/Ellen on this one!!! Baby Chrono is adorable He is so big and cute!!! I forgot to tell you in the mom's thread. Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:16:54 PM

P: 9/13/2007 5:56:22 PM
FireGoddess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,145 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 1/25/2005	LOL Chrono, I knew it was a jube. I'd pick the I if it was eye clean, and if it wasn't visibly smaller due to the cutting stats. And the price wasn't a lot higher than the J.
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:56:22 PM

P: 9/14/2007 5:06:54 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM Author: Chrono You ladies crack me up. Darn it, I didn't want to say it's a Jubilee but since its out now... Yes, that's what I am looking at. Yup, the I SI2 is the cheaper one but not really by much and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't too deep, the table isn't too large and that it is eye clean. I guess this can be considered a sooper pooper dooper ideal cut? Or is it just a sooper dooper cut? You forgot the looper Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 9/14/2007 5:06:54 AM

P: 9/14/2007 8:25:04 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 9/14/2007 5:06:54 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM Author: Chrono You ladies crack me up. Darn it, I didn't want to say it's a Jubilee but since its out now... Yes, that's what I am looking at. Yup, the I SI2 is the cheaper one but not really by much and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't too deep, the table isn't too large and that it is eye clean. I guess this can be considered a sooper pooper dooper ideal cut? Or is it just a sooper dooper cut? You forgot the looper Maybe she din't, mabe they're just not THAT good. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 9/14/2007 8:25:04 AM

P: 9/14/2007 8:30:44 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 9/14/2007 8:25:04 AM Author: Ellen Date: 9/14/2007 5:06:54 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 9/13/2007 4:52:02 PM Author: Chrono You ladies crack me up. Darn it, I didn't want to say it's a Jubilee but since its out now... Yes, that's what I am looking at. Yup, the I SI2 is the cheaper one but not really by much and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't too deep, the table isn't too large and that it is eye clean. I guess this can be considered a sooper pooper dooper ideal cut? Or is it just a sooper dooper cut? You forgot the looper Maybe she din't, mabe they're just not THAT good. .....could be true.... Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 9/14/2007 8:30:44 AM

P: 9/14/2007 8:50:29 AM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,303 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	How can you say such things about Sharon's earrings? I'm sure they are sooper pooper dooper looper ideal cuts. It looks like the consensus is that everyone prefers the I SI2 if both were comparable. And Skippy, thanks for the compliments on the big boy. Hubby is basking in the pool of compliments. He thinks he has something to do with it. Does he?
Posted: 9/14/2007 8:50:29 AM

P: 9/14/2007 9:27:17 AM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,823 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Chrono, I am so excited for you. It is funny when you get to know PS'ers the more excited you get for them!!! Glad your hubby is happy. You sound like great parents; your son is such a cutie. Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 9/14/2007 9:27:17 AM

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