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| P: 7/21/2007 12:04:39 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
This diamond came from my moms ering. It was larger than this in the beginning, and set in a platinum setting. Several years ago, she took it to her family jeweler (I use that term lightly) to have the prong tips replaced. Long story short, he cracked the diamond. ![]() So, he sent this stone off to be recut enough to be presentable, and replaced it with a new one to go in moms setting. I was then given the choice of taking this loose stone, or getting the one with the setting, my sister would get the other. I picked the loose stone for sentimental reasons, since I was so close with my dad. I wanted the original stone he gave her. Of course, this was way pre-pricescope, and I'd never seen an emeral cut diamond up close. At first it looked really pretty, and honestly did have a "deep" look to it. But after staring at it obsessively for a bit, the look changed. lol Now I was really seeing it, and it didn't look as good. I also had no idea what a really well cut emerald diamond looked like, and had no idea if this one was or not. To shorten the story, after getting on PS and looking at the papers, it really couldn't get much worse. What really saddens me is, my dad cashed in all his bonds to buy my mother this ring, and probably paid a lot of money for a poor diamond. ![]() I put it in this setting, but I don't wear it anymore. However I would like to, more for sentimental reasons, since I lost my dad several years ago. So, I was thinking it may be better suited for a necklace. I would like to incorporate the tapered baguettes if possible. Do you think this would work? Here are the specs, hold on to your seats. ![]() D VS1 Diameter 7.55x3.86x2.39 .61 cts. T 70% D 61.9 % Girdle Extremely thin to thick Polish Good Symmetry Fair The pics aren't too hot, but these are hard to photograph and I'm sick and didn't feel like fighting for better ones. You get the picture though. It does look better than this in real life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:04:39 PM | |
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| P: 7/21/2007 12:05:26 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
MAMMOTH table... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:05:26 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 12:06:24 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:06:24 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 12:07:50 PM | |
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risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,413 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006 |
I think a pendant is a good idea. I wonder if some traps would widen out the look of the center stone?
~Marian |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:07:50 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 12:17:55 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
rising, I probably should have put this in my post, but I'm trying to do this rather economically. And honestly, I've held it up as a pendant and the width, or lack of, doesn't bother me.
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:17:55 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 12:54:05 PM | |
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Linda W Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,442 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/15/2006 |
Ellen, I think the ring is really pretty as is, but a necklace would be pretty too. Linda ******************************** |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 12:54:05 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 1:08:30 PM | |
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Dee*Jay Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,491 Last Post: 9/23/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2006 |
I love the pendant reset idea! I think you could incorporate the baguettes in the corners at the top, fatter sides down (does that make any sense? You usually read my mind so I'm hoping to can figure out what I mean, LOL!) And really, even though it's not "ideally" cut, it is the stone your Dad gave your Mom, and that counts for more than any spec in my mind!! ETA: So I've been sitting here staring at the pics obsessively for a while, and what about setting the stone east/west? I'm not sure that's the *answer* (the better way to consider that would be to have someone photoshop it, or even play with the stones loose) but I just wanted to throw it out there. (You know me--have a thought = type it out!)
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 1:08:30 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 1:14:23 PM | |
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Sundial Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,590 Last Post: 7/14/2009 Member Since: 3/14/2005 |
Although it may not have ideal proportions that diamond still has a special beauty all its own not to mention the sentimental value attached to it. I think it would make a lovely pendant. I know you mentioned tapered baguettes and I don't know if this would be within budget, but would you consider having a halo of tiny round diamonds around it? I think that is such a gorgeous look that contrasts nicely with a step cut stone.
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 1:14:23 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 1:36:54 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Linda, thanks. I like the ring ok, just not on me. If I had long slender fingers, it would look great, but I have short, notsoslender fingers. Also, with it having the specs it does, I just thought it might do better as a necklace.Dee, lol you crack me up. Yes, I know exactly what you mean w/setting the baguettes like that. That's kinda what I had thought of too... Now, E/W is an idea I hadn't thought of...wish Irina was here to photoshop. ![]() And you're right, the sentimentality of this diamond far exceeds its poor cut. That's why I still want to wear it. ![]() Sundial, I hadn't thought of the halo either. While I do like the idea in general, I like the idea of something simpler for me right now. The halo seems "dreessier" to me, I don't think I'd wear it that often, and I would like to wear this more than once in a while. ![]() If I could have both versions, that would be a different story. ![]() Now, another question. Should I trust my local jeweler to do whatever, or not. Please keep in mind the kind of "luck" I have...
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 1:36:54 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 7:43:54 PM | |
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canuk-gal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,195 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 4/19/2004 |
HI: I was gonna mention an E/W orientation--but Miss DeeJay beat me to it. How about adding some color? What is your birthstone? P.S. I think it is a beautiful ring--love the classic setting. cheers--Sharon "People who possess great qualities, do not need to show off". |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 7:43:54 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 7:50:14 PM | |
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risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,413 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006 |
Oh dear...your local jeweler has not served you well, Ellen. I'm not sure I would go that route again
~Marian |
| Posted: 7/21/2007 7:50:14 PM | |
| P: 7/21/2007 8:40:05 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/21/2007 7:43:54 PM Well, it used to be Aquamarine. But now they changed a bunch (and btw, who ARE they, and why did THEY feel the need to change??) and it's supposed to be Turquoise now. Author: canuk-gal HI: I was gonna mention an E/W orientation--but Miss DeeJay beat me to it. How about adding some color? What is your birthstone? P.S. I think it is a beautiful ring--love the classic setting. cheers--Sharon And yes, it's a pretty ring.lol rising, just so we're on the same page, the only thing THIS local jeweler did was mess up the first Rhodium dip on my ering, which he then fixed. Does that help?
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| Posted: 7/21/2007 8:40:05 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 11:30:26 AM | |
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risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,413 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006 |
Yes, it does, I think...maybe
~Marian |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 11:30:26 AM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 12:07:27 PM | |
surfgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,438 Last Post: 5/19/2009 Member Since: 4/5/2007 |
I was thinking of an E-W setting too, perhaps with small rounds in between the center stone and the bags? If you did that in a ring, would you wear it as a RHR? It could look pretty and give good finger coverage in that sort of setting. Or as a RHR, what about setting the center E-W, flanked by the bags, with additional non-tapered bags going down the sides or all around? if you did a necklace, I'd still go with the first idea I mentioned...bit it might look a bit small on the neck all clustered together at the center of a necklace, which is why I suggested the RHR instead...
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 12:07:27 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 12:45:11 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 11:30:26 AM lol! Author: risingsun Yes, it does, I think...maybe ![]() ![]() surfgirl, thanks for the suggestions. The more I think about this, the more I think 1. it should be a pendant and 2. I want to keep it simple, I may even chuck the baguettes. I really want this to be as close to an "everyday" thing as possible. And, for the most part, I'm just not a flashy person, which I personally think it would start to become if I started adding a bunch of stuff. Not that it actually would be flashy by most, just my simple mid-western roots showing through here. ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 12:45:11 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 12:59:52 PM | |
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Miranda Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,042 Last Post: 9/24/2009 Member Since: 2/18/2006 |
Well, I think the stone is very pretty. I love any stone that has such sentimental value. Wearing it close to your heart would be perfect. What about a thin bezel around it and set e/w? I'm not sure about the bags? I know you don't like the setting, but, maybe you could have a colored stone set in it.
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 12:59:52 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 1:18:50 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 12:59:52 PM Hmmm, that would help it stand out a bit more, yes? And maybe give it an even more casual look? Which I would like!Author: Miranda Well, I think the stone is very pretty. I love any stone that has such sentimental value. Wearing it close to your heart would be perfect. What about a thin bezel around it and set e/w? I'm not sure about the bags? I know you don't like the setting, but, maybe you could have a colored stone set in it. And yes, a colored stone would work in that setting, and at that size, shouldn't cost much either. It's not that I don't llike the setting, I actually do, it's just too thin for my fingers. Wider, more substantial bands just look better on them, to me.
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 1:18:50 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 2:06:55 PM | |
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Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006 |
Ellen, I'd have to give it more though. But, howsabout a WF-style tandem necklace? "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian) |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 2:06:55 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 2:19:15 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 2:06:55 PM I do like that necklace Harriet, but again, it kinda goes back to adding more stones, and getting more fancy. (for moi) Author: Harriet Ellen, I'd have to give it more though. But, howsabout a WF-style tandem necklace? ![]() Now, maybe if I bezeled it, and set it E/W, with the baguettes going out/up on either side, it might not be too bad. Of course, I'm having a hard time envisioning that, it could look awful, lol. I really wish Irina was here... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 2:19:15 PM | |
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Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 2:19:15 PM I like your idea, minus the bezel. The width of the emerald already exceeds that of the baguettes. I hope iwanna chimes in. She's a mean photoshopper. Unless I die from stress in the coming week, I'll be thinking away.
Author: Ellen I do like that necklace Harriet, but again, it kinda goes back to adding more stones, and getting more fancy. (for moi) ![]() Now, maybe if I bezeled it, and set it E/W, with the baguettes going out/up on either side, it might not be too bad. Of course, I'm having a hard time envisioning that, it could look awful, lol. I really wish Irina was here... "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian) |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 2:24:52 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 2:39:17 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 2:24:52 PM Why are you stressed?Author: Harriet I like your idea, minus the bezel. The width of the emerald already exceeds that of the baguettes. I hope iwanna chimes in. She's a mean photoshopper. Unless I die from stress in the coming week, I'll be thinking away. And why don't you like the bezel idea? Don't be shy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 2:39:17 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 3:00:05 PM | |
surfgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,438 Last Post: 5/19/2009 Member Since: 4/5/2007 |
Date: 7/22/2007 12:45:11 PM Ellen, it is raining and muggy down here in Trinidad so I'm giving your dilemma proper thought today! And postponing my work!! Based on your above comment, I think you should go with the bezel set solo pendant. If the stone has clipped edges the bezel will accentuate them more and I think that, in platinum, on a fine plat chain would look divine and still allow you maintain your "simple Mid-Western roots"..heh... It would be sort of like an EC Elsa Peretti style solitaire pendant and I think the fact that it's EC would make it stand out just that little bit for people to say "wow, what a pretty necklace!" Plus it would be simple enough to wear with jeans and a t-shirt, or dressed up. I predict you will wear such a design nearly daily! Author: Ellen Date: 7/22/2007 11:30:26 AM lol! Author: risingsun Yes, it does, I think...maybe ![]() ![]() surfgirl, thanks for the suggestions. The more I think about this, the more I think 1. it should be a pendant and 2. I want to keep it simple, I may even chuck the baguettes. I really want this to be as close to an 'everyday' thing as possible. And, for the most part, I'm just not a flashy person, which I personally think it would start to become if I started adding a bunch of stuff. Not that it actually would be flashy by most, just my simple mid-western roots showing through here. ![]() And I'd keep the original setting with bags and either put a colored gemstone in there, or keep the setting for a future use. Do you have kids? It could make a lovely ering setting one day with added sentimental value...What other little gems are you hiding from us?!?
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 3:00:05 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 4:43:32 PM | |
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Dee*Jay Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,491 Last Post: 9/23/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2006 |
What about setting it E/W and bezeling only the long sides? That would add some width and then you could do something interesting at the ends; maybe have the metal form a "V" and have the chain connect to the points of the V? It would have to be designed in a way that prevents flipping though.
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 4:43:32 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 5:24:14 PM | |
door knob solitaire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,933 Last Post: 2/26/2008 Member Since: 6/27/2005 |
My angle of attack has a bit of modern/contemporary theme to it. Breaking with tradition rules....I would remount the stone as a slider. This would enable you to slide it on different chains or a solid cuff/collar like necklace. The insert for the chain in the slide could be in the center so the necklace chain would run like the equator seperating north from south. The silder could be engineered to offer you east and west or north and south hanging options. I would take the baguettes and attach them to lever back earrings. I am spelling that term wrong? They are the earrings that are hoop like...but not rounded. The bags would sit ever so lightly on the edge of the earring wire. And I think they would add an added sparkle of suprise. Or they could be part or a dangle with an added pearl or birthstone. If you did the earrings and the slider you could have an option to add a drop of a stone of color to match your earrings...again maybe a seed pearl...white, colored, or black one...or birthstone. Do you have any other recycle-ables that you could use to stay economical? I wish I could photoshop...to convey my thoughts. Arrgh! This is exciting. ![]() DKS Hey if you don't like your birthstone...what about using your Fathers?
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 5:24:14 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 7:23:15 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Dee, too funny. I had thought of a semi-bezel earlier, amongst other things. Then I started looking through old bezel threads, and came across a pic of a Tiffany Etiole solitaire. I liked the look (this was a round of course) of the diamond semi-bezeled, and surrounded with the wide polished band. That gave me an idea, I'll throw it out. I'll probably butcher this description , but, what about this. First, think of a dog tag (for lack of a better visual) just a bit larger than the diamond. Then sink the diamond into the middle of it, running it lengthwise with the tag. The surrounding metal could be highly polished, or brushed. The outline conforms with the shape of the diamond. The edges are rounded and ever so slightly raised. The same on the inner edges around the diamond, with ribbon prongs on the corners. Or, leave the bezel off the inner edges and just do the ribbon prongs. Or, no ribbon prongs and full bezel, or semi on the ends.Love it, hate it? Don't quit my day job? Wait, I don't have one. OK, don't go into designing jewelery? ![]() ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 7:23:15 PM | |
| P: 7/22/2007 7:31:49 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 5:24:14 PM Ok, I LOVE this idea, it's a must, unless absolutely impossible with the end design! thanks!Author: door knob solitaire My angle of attack has a bit of modern/contemporary theme to it. Breaking with tradition rules....I would remount the stone as a slider. This would enable you to slide it on different chains or a solid cuff/collar like necklace. The insert for the chain in the slide could be in the center so the necklace chain would run like the equator seperating north from south. The silder could be engineered to offer you east and west or north and south hanging options. I would take the baguettes and attach them to lever back earrings. I am spelling that term wrong? They are the earrings that are hoop like...but not rounded. The bags would sit ever so lightly on the edge of the earring wire. And I think they would add an added sparkle of suprise. Or they could be part or a dangle with an added pearl or birthstone. If you did the earrings and the slider you could have an option to add a drop of a stone of color to match your earrings...again maybe a seed pearl...white, colored, or black one...or birthstone. Do you have any other recycle-ables that you could use to stay economical? I wish I could photoshop...to convey my thoughts. Arrgh! This is exciting. ![]() DKS Hey if you don't like your birthstone...what about using your Fathers? ![]() Speaking of recycle-ables, I do have some Emerald cut, very light blue, very cheap Aquamrine earrings hubby bought me years ago to match my Aquamarine ring. I will go play with them and ideas later, thanks again! And I looked up my dads birthstone, it's Opal. And I seriously just now remembered I have some of his second wifes (deceased) jewelery under my bed. I do believe she has some very tiny opal earrings in there, must check it out. I forgot all about that stuff! Thanks DKS!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 7:31:49 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 3:00:05 PM Ha ha! Get to work. Author: surfgirl Ellen, it is raining and muggy down here in Trinidad so I'm giving your dilemma proper thought today! And postponing my work!! Based on your above comment, I think you should go with the bezel set solo pendant. If the stone has clipped edges the bezel will accentuate them more and I think that, in platinum, on a fine plat chain would look divine and still allow you maintain your 'simple Mid-Western roots'..heh... It would be sort of like an EC Elsa Peretti style solitaire pendant and I think the fact that it's EC would make it stand out just that little bit for people to say 'wow, what a pretty necklace!' Plus it would be simple enough to wear with jeans and a t-shirt, or dressed up. I predict you will wear such a design nearly daily! And I'd keep the original setting with bags and either put a colored gemstone in there, or keep the setting for a future use. Do you have kids? It could make a lovely ering setting one day with added sentimental value...What other little gems are you hiding from us?!? ![]() Tell me what you think of my idea. And, I've posted everything I have, except some Cameo jewelry of my grandmothers, but it's in my bank box. And I have 3 boys, I will have to think on whether to keep the bags in it or not.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 7:35:19 PM | |
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Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 2:39:17 PM Because of all the stuff I have to do before my vacation.Author: Ellen Why are you stressed? And why don't you like the bezel idea? Don't be shy! Because it will make the emerald-cut out of proportion to the baguettes. Also because I don't like bezels. Someone, cheer me up. Please! "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian) |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 8:13:41 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 8:13:41 PM Ok, but I've scratched the baguettes. Do you not like my latest idea? Author: Harriet Because of all the stuff I have to do before my vacation. Because it will make the emerald-cut out of proportion to the baguettes. Also because I don't like bezels. Someone, cheer me up. Please! Don't stress, it will all be worth it. Just make check lists so you don't forget anything. List the most important stuff first, least last. That way, if by chance something doesn't get done/brought, not a biggie. You'll be fine. Or, I could go in your place....
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| Posted: 7/22/2007 8:47:04 PM | |
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Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 8:47:04 PM What latest idea? I've been staring at the tax code the whole day and my eyes are crossed. Author: Ellen Ok, but I've scratched the baguettes. Do you not like my latest idea? Don't stress, it will all be worth it. Just make check lists so you don't forget anything. List the most important stuff first, least last. That way, if by chance something doesn't get done/brought, not a biggie. You'll be fine. Or, I could go in your place.... ![]() ![]() Or, you could do my work ...
"The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian) |
| Posted: 7/22/2007 9:37:03 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 7/22/2007 9:37:03 PM Read the 5th post up. Author: Harriet What latest idea? I've been staring at the tax code the whole day and my eyes are crossed. ![]() Or, you could do my work ... ![]() ![]() And of course I can do your work for you! Mind getting fired??
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