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WHICH ONE IS THE BEST

P: 7/4/2007 5:35:24 PM
Viphan01 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2007 Member Since: 7/3/2007	http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1027733 http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=2685262 (this one has table=56%, depth=62%, crown angle=35.5, pavillion angle=40.8, pavillion depth=43%) http://www.goodoldgold.com/classic/1_868ct_g_vvs1_h&a.htm http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2622/ Thanks for your help! Teach me about diamonds!
Posted: 7/4/2007 5:35:24 PM

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P: 7/4/2007 7:01:34 PM
In the rough Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/14/2007 Member Since: 7/4/2007	Viphan01, My choice is: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2622/ I think all of them are nice choices and you will have one happy girl!
Posted: 7/4/2007 7:01:34 PM

P: 7/4/2007 8:22:04 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I would go with the F VS2, the other clarities are overkill, imo. Also, not sure how you managed to pull up the first GOG stone, but that's from their old website. I tried searching for it on the new site, but there's nothing like that on there that I could find.... I definitely vote for the last one! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/4/2007 8:22:04 PM

P: 7/4/2007 8:38:37 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2622/ Gorgeous stone! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/4/2007 8:38:37 PM

P: 7/4/2007 9:02:58 PM
Viphan01 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2007 Member Since: 7/3/2007	I just realized that last stone that you all like has medium blue fluorescence which is not what I am looking for. I will have to search for another one. Teach me about diamonds!
Posted: 7/4/2007 9:02:58 PM

P: 7/4/2007 9:04:18 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 7/4/2007 9:02:58 PM Author: Viphan01 I just realized that last stone that you all like has medium blue fluorescence which is not what I am looking for. I will have to search for another one. What's wrong with that? You can't see it unless you have a black light handy! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/4/2007 9:04:18 PM

P: 7/4/2007 9:07:17 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 7/4/2007 9:04:18 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 What's wrong with that? You can't see it unless you have a black light handy! Yes, and if it DID have any affect on the stone (other than under a blacklight), it would only be to make it appear brighter /whiter!! Please, call and talk to GOG about it. This is NO reason to get rid of this stone! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/4/2007 9:07:17 PM

P: 7/4/2007 9:08:38 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,920 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	Date: 7/4/2007 9:04:18 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 Date: 7/4/2007 9:02:58 PM Author: Viphan01 I just realized that last stone that you all like has medium blue fluorescence which is not what I am looking for. I will have to search for another one. What's wrong with that? You can't see it unless you have a black light handy! Nothing wrong with medium blue fluorescence, many here prefer it. ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 7/4/2007 9:08:38 PM

P: 7/4/2007 9:11:10 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	My first diamond was F color and had medium blue flourescence. But I didn't know it for several years until we got an updated appraisal that happened to mention it!!! It was and is invisible! I have never even had it where there was a black light to see it glow! Actually, I think it would be cool to see! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/4/2007 9:11:10 PM

P: 7/5/2007 8:49:08 AM
Viphan01 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2007 Member Since: 7/3/2007	So medium blue flourescence wouldn't make D-F color diamonds look milky as I've read it? Also, if I have to stick with the trade up policy (yes, it would be an upgrade e-ring) from jamesAllen and have no choice to go with GOG, which one should I pick? http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1027733 http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1047591 http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1082892 If Jamesallen allows the buy back/consignment program, I'll try to get the one from GOG. Thanks again! Teach me about diamonds!
Posted: 7/5/2007 8:49:08 AM

P: 7/5/2007 8:56:02 AM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	No, medium blue is not a problem. You have to be more careful with strong blue, because some of those can be a problem. I'll look at the other choices. Does James Allen allow full value for trade-ups? If so, I can see why you'd want to do that if your first stone came from there. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/5/2007 8:56:02 AM

P: 7/5/2007 9:00:07 AM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Wow, those three were very nice! I'd take this one, because you really can't see VS1 inclusions with a loupe normally, so VS1 is totally fine to me. I wish it had the magnified image, but everything on paper looks good! http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1082892 ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/5/2007 9:00:07 AM

P: 7/5/2007 9:26:21 AM
Viphan01 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2007 Member Since: 7/3/2007	Thanks for your quick response. They don't have the full value trade up. Only 80% but I am still inquiring on the buy back value and consignment (no answer yet). I think I need to get rid of the thought that I must get the VVS instead of VS:-). There is another stone that I am requestion more info on. It is from superbcert, but this particular stone is not superbcert, it is ideal H&A. http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/74339.html Wish I can consign or sell my first stone back to Jamesallen so I can have more choices on H&A stones. Teach me about diamonds!
Posted: 7/5/2007 9:26:21 AM

P: 7/5/2007 9:40:14 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 7/5/2007 9:26:21 AM Author: Viphan01 Thanks for your quick response. They don't have the full value trade up. Only 80% but I am still inquiring on the buy back value and consignment (no answer yet). I think I need to get rid of the thought that I must get the VVS instead of VS:-). There is another stone that I am requestion more info on. It is from superbcert, but this particular stone is not superbcert, it is ideal H&A. http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/74339.html Wish I can consign or sell my first stone back to Jamesallen so I can have more choices on H&A stones. If you just want a diamond that's eyeclean, then yes, that's a great idea. Honestly, there are diamonds that have been posted here, one very recently, that was a 1.6 SI2 AND totally eyeclean, though those are harder to find. If upgrading is important to you in the future, I looked at Excels policy. It's ok, but not near as good as GOG's, just a thought... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/5/2007 9:40:14 AM

P: 7/5/2007 12:45:07 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 7/5/2007 9:26:21 AM Author: Viphan01 Thanks for your quick response. They don't have the full value trade up. Only 80% but I am still inquiring on the buy back value and consignment (no answer yet). I think I need to get rid of the thought that I must get the VVS instead of VS:-). There is another stone that I am requestion more info on. It is from superbcert, but this particular stone is not superbcert, it is ideal H&A. http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/74339.html Wish I can consign or sell my first stone back to Jamesallen so I can have more choices on H&A stones. Wow, only 80% for a trade-up? They need to revise that policy if they want to be competitive. I think the last 3 JA stones were gorgeous, though. So I'd let them know you'll trade up with them if you get 90-100% value or else you'll go elsewhere with your money! I'd either stick with JA or switch to GOG or WF. You can't beat the latter two with trade-ins and selection of H&A diamonds. I believe GOG has lifetime buy-back, too. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 7/5/2007 12:45:07 PM

P: 7/5/2007 1:11:18 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 7/5/2007 12:45:07 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 Wow, only 80% for a trade-up? They need to revise that policy if they want to be competitive. I think the last 3 JA stones were gorgeous, though. So I'd let them know you'll trade up with them if you get 90-100% value or else you'll go elsewhere with your money! I'd either stick with JA or switch to GOG or WF. You can't beat the latter two with trade-ins and selection of H&A diamonds. I believe GOG has lifetime buy-back, too. They do, at 25% less purchase price. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/5/2007 1:11:18 PM

P: 7/5/2007 3:21:31 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	Date: 7/5/2007 12:45:07 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 Date: 7/5/2007 9:26:21 AM Author: Viphan01 Thanks for your quick response. They don't have the full value trade up. Only 80% but I am still inquiring on the buy back value and consignment (no answer yet). I think I need to get rid of the thought that I must get the VVS instead of VS:-). There is another stone that I am requestion more info on. It is from superbcert, but this particular stone is not superbcert, it is ideal H&amp;A. http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/74339.html Wish I can consign or sell my first stone back to Jamesallen so I can have more choices on H&amp;A stones. Wow, only 80% for a trade-up? They need to revise that policy if they want to be competitive. I think the last 3 JA stones were gorgeous, though. So I'd let them know you'll trade up with them if you get 90-100% value or else you'll go elsewhere with your money! I'd either stick with JA or switch to GOG or WF. You can't beat the latter two with trade-ins and selection of H&A diamonds. I believe GOG has lifetime buy-back, too. You would want to talk about this with Jim Schultz personally...but I believe that they have 100% upgrades on their "in-house" stones.
Posted: 7/5/2007 3:21:31 PM

P: 7/5/2007 7:27:56 PM
Viphan01 Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 7/20/2007 Member Since: 7/3/2007	Unfortunately, WF doesn't have the ACA size/criteria I'm looking for... Teach me about diamonds!
Posted: 7/5/2007 7:27:56 PM

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