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 How does a recently graded AGS000 get a 3.4 on the HCA??

P:  6/18/2007 5:06:55 PM  
angeline
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What gives here? Who do I believe? Would this be a good stone or not?

Depth: 62
Table: 55.4
Crown: 34.9
Pav: 41.2

It was graded AGS Ideal 0 this year, but gets a 3.4, VG, G, G, VG on the HCA.

Anyone know why?

Thanks,

a

 


Posted:  6/18/2007 5:06:55 PM

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P: 6/18/2007 5:25:07 PM
Pricescope
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HCA penalizes for the light leakage. This stone has a bit deep pavilion and can have light leakage under the table.

You can download Gem Adviser (free program with numerous examples) and see this effect on the closest model.



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Posted:  6/18/2007 5:25:07 PM
P: 6/18/2007 5:28:03 PM
angeline
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Thanks Pricescope! I just don't get how AGS can rate the light performance as Ideal if it might have leakage under the table?

I'll go look up that linky

a

ETA: darn it I just looked and it's only for Windows - I've got a mac

Posted:  6/18/2007 5:28:03 PM
P: 6/18/2007 10:21:46 PM
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This table shows the thumbnails for the idealscope images GemScope would produce. They aren't very big, but you CAN begin to see the lighter/whiter table beginning to appear in the range of crown and pavillion angles for the diamond you listed.

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Posted:  6/18/2007 10:21:46 PM
P: 6/19/2007 12:20:53 AM
angeline
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Date: 6/18/2007 10:21:46 PM
Author: ladyciel
This table shows the thumbnails for the idealscope images GemScope would produce. They aren't very big, but you CAN begin to see the lighter/whiter table beginning to appear in the range of crown and pavillion angles for the diamond you listed.


Thanks ladyciel! That was very helpful.

a

Posted:  6/19/2007 12:20:53 AM
P: 6/19/2007 8:00:18 AM
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AGS is making a "category" which does include a variety of good looking diamonds.  Who knows without close personal observation which one you might prefer.  You'll find all AGS 0 diamonds attractive.  The question is, Which one do you prefer.

All top quality diamonds, regardless of the system, are not idential or totally equal.  There is a range of the best.  Some labs have tighter categories and some looser categories.  Its personaol preference with a regard to budget and price which control the final decision.

David S. Atlas

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Posted:  6/19/2007 8:00:18 AM
P: 6/19/2007 1:35:27 PM
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Date: 6/19/2007 8:00:18 AM
Author: oldminer

All top quality diamonds, regardless of the system, are not idential or totally equal. There is a range of the best. Some labs have tighter categories and some looser categories. Its personaol preference with a regard to budget and price which control the final decision.

Precisely. 

The HCA, AGA, AGS and GIA all differ slightly but there is strong overlap in recommended/top configurations.

For instance, let's take preferred pavilion angles:  For 53-58% tables, pavilion angles of 40.6-41.0 have the greatest approval cross-system.  The AGS cut guidelines cite most candidates for 0 in that range.  The HCA and AGA prefer the shallow side (and a bit lower).  GIA prefers the steep side (and higher).

The prediction depends on overall configuration of course, but it's nice that strong overlap exists.

John

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Posted:  6/19/2007 1:35:27 PM

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