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| P: 4/24/2003 9:08:36 AM | |
Yupi Rough Rock Total Posts: 74 Last Post: 6/13/2008 Member Since: 2/8/2003 |
I have read a lot about the Idealscope ("IC") on the net. I wonder how often do experts use them to assess the cut? It's always easy to just look at numbers and form an opinion. But what about using it to match the numbers ? Does the IC always work ? How user friendly is it ?
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| Posted: 4/24/2003 9:08:36 AM | |
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| P: 4/24/2003 4:49:22 PM | |
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,587 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Bump. I am too biased to comment. But i can say we have a return rate less than 1% 
Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 4/24/2003 4:49:22 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2003 6:18:25 PM | |
Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,681 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
I've never thought of the IS as a tool for professionals--although I suppose it could be used that way. The pros are supposed to be paying the big bucks for advanced tools such as Sarin machines and BScopes and such. I think of it as an affordable, portable, and easy to use tool that consumers can use to quickly weed out the good from the bad. *Then* they can get the pros to use those expensive machines of theirs to give them more details.
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| Posted: 4/24/2003 6:18:25 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2003 6:23:06 PM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,936 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
I sent one to our offline jeweler in Aptos...he gets sent stones from his wholesaler and carries a small amount of them in his store. His wholesaler has a Sarin, all the expensive professional tools etc. Jeff relies on his eyes and diamond knowledge from 30 years in the industry to gauge the stones he is sent (along with the GIA or AGS cert etc). So the IS will help him by also letting him view any stones he receives from his wholesaler to really figure out what sorts of stones this guy is sending him! Do they have good light return? He may notice that the majority of them leak alot of light. Then he can effectively crack down and demand better quality. Or he may notice that most of them look really great. Anyway--thats just one example of how the IS can help the professional jeweler who does not have the expensive tools, but rather is just a B&M who would be like any other B&M if he didn't have the IS to gauge light return. 
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| Posted: 4/24/2003 6:23:06 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2003 6:28:06 PM | |
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Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,587 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Hest how do you think 'pro's' find stock? Want to try scanning 100 stones in a parcel on a Sarin or BrillianceScope device so you can pick the eyes out? Takes hours!!! What you do is spend 5 seconds a stone with an ideal-scope and then scan the 10 winners. You will never miss one good stone. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 4/24/2003 6:28:06 PM | |
| P: 4/24/2003 6:40:13 PM | |
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Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,587 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Mara, we were writting same stuff at different times. If your guy likes what he sees then he needs to contact me for our retail sales system we are rolling out soon The contact points from www.ideal-scope.com will get thru. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 4/24/2003 6:40:13 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 12:39:02 AM | |
Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,879 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002 |
The thing I like about the IdealScope is that it provides a quick and accurate visual assessment of light performance and symmetry. That's what it all boils down to when your assessing beauty eh? A visual inspection. The IdealScope focuses on the pros and cons of a stones performance in no-nonsense terms that even a layperson can readily see. In my mind, it is the Great Equalizer for the layperson, and a great aid for the professional. There is no other tool out there someone can buy for $30 (including the calibration cz) that gives so much information. Sure you can spend $6000 for a BrillianceScope, and $20,000 for a Sarin, but in the end everybody (professional and laymen alike) buys based on their visual assessment. The IdealScope image is a "crystallization" of that visual assessment. Rich, Independent GG Appraiser |
| Posted: 4/25/2003 12:39:02 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 6:57:33 AM | |
mdx Ideal Rock Total Posts: 570 Last Post: 11/29/2007 Member Since: 3/1/2002 |
Hi Yupi The ideal scope works very well for us if we need to look at a large manufactures parcel. What we do is check each stone from the crown side with the Ideal Scope. Those that pass we pop over and use a H&A viewer to quickly check symmetry. The few that are left are then scrutinised in depth for possible purchase Wayne Melbourne Diamond Exchange (Australia) Diamond Exchange Ltd. (Australia) |
| Posted: 4/25/2003 6:57:33 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 9:34:59 AM | |
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Yupi Rough Rock Total Posts: 74 Last Post: 6/13/2008 Member Since: 2/8/2003 |
Wow ! So for a layman like me, it's gonna be a big big return for an investing into one $25 Idealscope !! So from now on, my bible will be the materials on the net about the Idealscope ?
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| Posted: 4/25/2003 9:34:59 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 9:42:31 AM | |
rodentman Cut Rock Total Posts: 387 Last Post: 2/18/2006 Member Since: 8/6/2001 |
I lend mine to the local high-end B&M where they get a big kick looking at their own rings (with some noticeable disapperntment) and their stock. I show them my EightStar or pernt to my arm so they know what "Ideal" means. |
| Posted: 4/25/2003 9:42:31 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 11:16:06 AM | |
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Hest88 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,681 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2003 |
Garry, I stand corrected. It's great to see the IS being used so widely. Of course, it does burst my bubble a little. I always thought you pros had magic Superman eyes.
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| Posted: 4/25/2003 11:16:06 AM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 12:07:46 PM | |
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Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,936 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
oh my gosh Rodentman that is hilarious!!! great idea!
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| Posted: 4/25/2003 12:07:46 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 5:43:39 PM | |
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mdx Ideal Rock Total Posts: 570 Last Post: 11/29/2007 Member Since: 3/1/2002 |
Rodentman That’s a great Tattoo, and I thought that Gary was the "Cut Nut" Talk about dedication to the cause Diamond Exchange Ltd. (Australia) |
| Posted: 4/25/2003 5:43:39 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 5:54:04 PM | |
rbjd Cut Rock Total Posts: 154 Last Post: 7/26/2008 Member Since: 2/4/2003 |
I don't know Rodentman, that 8star is looking a little out of round.
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| Posted: 4/25/2003 5:54:04 PM | |
| P: 4/25/2003 6:01:46 PM | |
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Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,587 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000 |
Actually the diamond guy would warn against buying a diamond that was warped like that one !!!!
Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT |
| Posted: 4/25/2003 6:01:46 PM | |
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