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P: 5/10/2007 1:59:48 AM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	Here it is: 1.637 I SI2 A Cut Above Hearts & Arrows . Report: AGS . Shape: A Cut Above H&A . Carat: 1.637 . Depth %: 61.7 . Table %: 56.7 . Crown Angle: 34.7 . Crown %: 15 . Star : 53 . Pavilion Angle: 40.8 . Pavilion %: 43.1 . Lower Girdle %: 77 . Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted . Measurements: 7.54-7.56X4.66 . Light Performance: 0 . Polish: Ideal . Symmetry: Ideal . Culet: Pointed . Fluorescence: Negligible Please give me your honest feedback as I am close to pulling the trigger on this.
Posted: 5/10/2007 1:59:48 AM

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P: 5/10/2007 2:46:00 AM
peridot83 Cut Rock Total Posts: 299 Last Post: 10/1/2008 Member Since: 4/5/2007	The numbers are great. Can't tell more without Idealscope/ASET. Just make sure that you are alright with the inclusions for an SI2. Come up with a definition of eyeclean and make sure the vender can assure that for you. (I want to make sure no inclusions can be seen from a foot away..or whatever your criteria would be). Seems like a great diamond based on what I can tell from the numbers.
Posted: 5/10/2007 2:46:00 AM

P: 5/10/2007 3:14:17 AM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	The numbers look fantastic!!! I would ask WF if the stone is eye clean. Also, would you mind posting the images?
Posted: 5/10/2007 3:14:17 AM

P: 5/10/2007 4:47:41 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Easy winner! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/10/2007 4:47:41 AM

P: 5/10/2007 5:34:43 AM
ladykemma Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,194 Last Post: 6/16/2007 Member Since: 1/2/2006	it's the one!
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:34:43 AM

P: 5/10/2007 8:16:21 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 5/10/2007 4:47:41 AM Author: Lorelei Easy winner! Exactly, it's an ACA. Hard to get better. Eye cleanliness is the only issue. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/10/2007 8:16:21 AM

P: 5/10/2007 12:14:26 PM
FireGoddess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,145 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 1/25/2005	Nice looking stone. Ask them to clarify if it is eye clean, and at what distance.
Posted: 5/10/2007 12:14:26 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:31:44 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	Alright guys, this is what I got from WF, in terms of their eyeclean analysis: From 3-4 inches from your eye you can or may be able to detect a slight inclusion. From 10-12 inches from the eye, you will not see anything. Also, you may be able to see some inclusions from the side view but, based on the setting, most of the time, prongs will hide the side view. How does that sound? If all goes well, I will pull the trigger once my bank wire comes through.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:31:44 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:34:26 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	i think it sounds yummariffic...but then again, i am not one of those totally adverse to inclusions either. you could always just get it and have a look. if it bothers you, send it back. (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:34:26 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:36:28 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:36:28 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:37:01 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:37:01 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:37:24 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:37:24 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:38:22 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:38:22 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:38:38 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	It's totally up to the one who wears it as to whether that is acceptable or not. No way for us to say. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:38:38 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:40:20 PM
angeline Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,942 Last Post: 11/14/2009 Member Since: 7/23/2006	Fabulous! What a great deal. As long as you don't mind knowing about the inclusions, you sure won't be able to see them from normal viewing distance. I've got an SI2 from WF and I love it!
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:40:20 PM

P: 5/10/2007 5:59:04 PM
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004	Wow. I would be hard pressed to kick that one out of bed for an inclusion I could only see by giving myself a headache. It looks lovely. shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter.
Posted: 5/10/2007 5:59:04 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:11:01 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	Thanks everybody! Both the fiance and I are not very sensitve in terms of color, as we have seen an I and could not tell that big of a difference between that and a D. In terms of the inclusions you guys mention, can you actually point it out in that picture of the diamond for me? I have the AGS report and it did mention some things. Please let me know. Thanks again for all your help. I believe we have a winner :D
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:11:01 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:12:30 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 5/10/2007 5:59:04 PM Author: Shay37 Wow. I would be hard pressed to kick that one out of bed for an inclusion I could only see by giving myself a headache. It looks lovely. shay Yes, well, when they come back cranky with a headache, I'll point them right to you sweetie. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:12:30 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:19:36 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	the cool thing about these well cut diamonds is, there is so much sparkle going on, you really have a hard time finding anything but the most obvious inclusions. (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:19:36 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:20:18 PM
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004	Date: 5/10/2007 6:12:30 PM Author: Ellen Date: 5/10/2007 5:59:04 PM Author: Shay37 Wow. I would be hard pressed to kick that one out of bed for an inclusion I could only see by giving myself a headache. It looks lovely. shay Yes, well, when they come back cranky with a headache, I'll point them right to you sweetie. snort, mmmrrrfff, giggle. works for me shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter.
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:20:18 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:23:34 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 5/10/2007 6:20:18 PM Author: Shay37 snort, mmmrrrfff, giggle. works for me shay Back to the inclusions. The only way you'll know for sure is to see it in person. belle is right in that great cuts hide many things. But to say you personally will be fine with it, might be going a bit too far. For me anyway. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:23:34 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:26:45 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	it's kinda pointless for us to point out the inclusions in a 40 mag static image (darn, i wanted to fit another 'point' in there somehow!) as ellen said, you need to see it for yourself to know whether or not it's right for you (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:26:45 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:28:51 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	Thanks for your replies. I'll just pull the trigger on it and see what it's like when I get it. I know it's all in the eye of the beholder, so I'm sorry for the redundant "point out the inclusions" and "where are the inclusions" questions and comments. I really appreciate all your feedback in helping me making this decision. Thanks again, David
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:28:51 PM

P: 5/10/2007 6:40:56 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	Date: 5/10/2007 6:28:51 PM Author: dhltal Thanks for your replies. I'll just pull the trigger on it and see what it's like when I get it. I know it's all in the eye of the beholder, so I'm sorry for the redundant 'point out the inclusions' and 'where are the inclusions' questions and comments. I really appreciate all your feedback in helping me making this decision. Thanks again, David that is the best option. it is a scary process finally pulling the trigger on such a big purchase, we've all been through it. our answers weren't meant to be just casual and simplistic but sound and based in reality. what is good for me may not be good for you and there's only one way to find out if this is good for you! i can't wait to hear what you think of it! please keep us posted david. (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:40:56 PM

P: 5/10/2007 7:37:18 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 5/10/2007 6:40:56 PM Author: belle that is the best option. it is a scary process finally pulling the trigger on such a big purchase, we've all been through it. our answers weren't meant to be just casual and simplistic but sound and based in reality. what is good for me may not be good for you and there's only one way to find out if this is good for you! i can't wait to hear what you think of it! please keep us posted david. Ditto. And I hope it's everything you want!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/10/2007 7:37:18 PM

P: 5/12/2007 10:20:11 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	Alright, I'm pretty much set on this diamond. I'm currently waiting for my bank to cash a check from my other account. Anyhow, I know there is a discount for using a bank wire transfer, but I was wondering what most people do here? I am thinking if I put it on a rewards credit card and just pay it off directly there, I would not get the discount, but I would be able to get rewards (i.e. mileage, free hotel rooms, etc.). I'm guessing it's just a decision on whether I can get over $500 rewards versus the $500 saved from doing a bank transfer? Please let me know! Thanks again!
Posted: 5/12/2007 10:20:11 PM

P: 5/12/2007 10:24:28 PM
MWG Ideal Rock Total Posts: 530 Last Post: 11/12/2008 Member Since: 1/24/2007	How much do you travel?? MWG
Posted: 5/12/2007 10:24:28 PM

P: 5/24/2007 2:55:02 PM
dhltal Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 9/21/2007 Member Since: 4/16/2007	So I went with the diamond I had in mind: 1.637 I SI2 A Cut Above Hearts & Arrows . Report: AGS . Shape: A Cut Above H&A . Carat: 1.637 . Depth %: 61.7 . Table %: 56.7 . Crown Angle: 34.7 . Crown %: 15 . Star : 53 . Pavilion Angle: 40.8 . Pavilion %: 43.1 . Lower Girdle %: 77 . Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted . Measurements: 7.54-7.56X4.66 . Light Performance: 0 . Polish: Ideal . Symmetry: Ideal . Culet: Pointed . Fluorescence: Negligible Thanks for all your help guys. Now, we're working on finalizing between a HOF and Scott Kay setting. Thanks also to Katie and John of White Flash. Without their help, I would never have been able to pinpoint exactly which diamond I wanted. Also, they were more than happy to answer ANY questions I had, no matter how minute or repetitive. The ring order will be charged on Friday and I will pick it up this Saturday :) Thanks again Pricescopers!
Posted: 5/24/2007 2:55:02 PM

P: 5/24/2007 3:20:00 PM
Jenn5504 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,166 Last Post: 8/20/2009 Member Since: 5/21/2007	Congrat on the awesome rock! Can't wait to see pics of it set!
Posted: 5/24/2007 3:20:00 PM

P: 5/24/2007 10:24:07 PM
MWG Ideal Rock Total Posts: 530 Last Post: 11/12/2008 Member Since: 1/24/2007	You will be pleased with your ACA, I know I am very pleased with mine!!!!!! Give us details later. MWG
Posted: 5/24/2007 10:24:07 PM

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