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P: 5/9/2007 6:38:21 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	I posted a couple days or so ago about the Vivida cut...I went back to the jeweler today as he received some diamonds for me to see. I fell in love with this one diamond and the setting I want to get for it is gorgeous. But here are the stats for the ring. I believe he has good prices for a B&M place. AGS Cert Clarity SI1 (I wanted to go with the VS2, but honestly, even with the scope, I believe this is closer to a VS2, a couple very small inclusions about 3:00 and 7:00 close to the perimeter of the stone that you could see under the scope. I had to have him point them out to me and we looked on the grading paper to see where they were. I saw one diamond the other day that was a SI1 and it had a black mark right in the middle of the diamond. So I wasn't even going to look at any more of those, but this is very clean. OK, enough about that. Cut Round Brilliant. It had hearts and arrows. Total Measurements: 6.87-6.91 X 4.24mm Color G Carat 1.25 Florescence None Table 57.8 Depth 61.6 Crown 35. 40.9 Pavilion (the bottom part) Culet Pointed Polish excellent Symmetry excellent The girdle just says faceted 1.6 to 3.9 $9,000 I have researched the 4 c's and all that for quite a while...Still don't know much though. What do you all think? I saw it under the scope of course and I saw it outdoors also. I also saw there the perfect setting and altogether it was BLING! So let me know what you think. Your opinions mean a lot. Thanks
Posted: 5/9/2007 6:38:21 PM

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P: 5/9/2007 6:55:04 PM
widget Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,254 Last Post: 12/20/2008 Member Since: 11/12/2004	Date: 5/9/2007 6:38:21 PM Author:Aprilstar I posted a couple days or so ago about the Vivida cut...I went back to the jeweler today as he received some diamonds for me to see. I fell in love with this one diamond and the setting I want to get for it is gorgeous. Being the non-techie that I am, I think this is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!! I personally would trust my own heart and eyes over others' opinions of numbers.. widget
Posted: 5/9/2007 6:55:04 PM

P: 5/9/2007 6:55:40 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	The specs look fine so far, do you have any images? Also, this diamond seems a tad expensive. You can save about 1-2k, with a stone from a PS vendor. This one is an H, but you get the idea 1.29 H/SI1: (need crown/pavillion angles) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=859680 I.30 H/VS2 (need crown and pavillion angles) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1035036 1.20 F/VS2: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=949500
Posted: 5/9/2007 6:55:40 PM

P: 5/9/2007 7:06:23 PM
risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,418 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006	Is the diamond a superideal cut, H&A, or a branded stone? If so, this could make for a higher price. ~Marian ______________________________________ "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling..."
Posted: 5/9/2007 7:06:23 PM

P: 5/9/2007 7:22:01 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	It is a hearts and arrows but not the hearts and arrows brand...It is AGS O IDEAL Round Brilliant.
Posted: 5/9/2007 7:22:01 PM

P: 5/9/2007 7:32:55 PM
boston_jeff Ideal Rock Total Posts: 606 Last Post: 12/7/2008 Member Since: 1/30/2007	Your stone looks nice, but you could get a higher clarity AGS000 for the same price like this one http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-273554.htm# for $8938 after PS discount!
Posted: 5/9/2007 7:32:55 PM

P: 5/9/2007 7:42:26 PM
peridot83 Cut Rock Total Posts: 299 Last Post: 10/1/2008 Member Since: 4/5/2007	If you loved it, why not go for it? It may not be a deal and the number geeks will tell you they can get ya better numbers....but what's most important is that you have piece of mind about your stone =)
Posted: 5/9/2007 7:42:26 PM

P: 5/9/2007 7:48:55 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 5/9/2007 7:32:55 PM Author: boston_jeff Your stone looks nice, but you could get a higher clarity AGS000 for the same price like this one http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-273554.htm# for $8938 after PS discount! I have to say I'd rather have this G VS2 over that other one. But if you really want to buy from the local jeweler, that stone sounds good, too! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 5/9/2007 7:48:55 PM

P: 5/9/2007 8:25:30 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	Here's the thing, the setting it is going in is 18K gold, thick too, with the diamonds sitting in a platinum setting on the top. It has 1 carat of round diamonds, same color and SI clarity (they looked good to me under the scope) and there were I think double rows of 4 on each side. So the whole setting with the diamond center was $11,000 plus tax. He cut some of the price off from the whole set. I am going to see if I can find the setting to put here. I originally looked at an F with VS2 cut but it was a carat and I guess I feel I could sacrifice some of the color and clarity (though like I said, looks good to me) for the larger stone...The jeweler said it looked more like a VS2 to him, (I know, I know he is trying to see the ring). If I can find a setting on line that looks like it, I will post it....
Posted: 5/9/2007 8:25:30 PM

P: 5/9/2007 8:27:55 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	Thanks Peridot83 and Widget for your comments too! There is a lot of emotion in this thing called an engagement ring...
Posted: 5/9/2007 8:27:55 PM

P: 5/9/2007 8:39:11 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 5/9/2007 8:27:55 PM Author: Aprilstar Thanks Peridot83 and Widget for your comments too! There is a lot of emotion in this thing called an engagement ring... Yes. And there's something to be said with having a jeweler you like and trust. If you think you may have found that, he's worth far more than 2000.00. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/9/2007 8:39:11 PM

P: 5/9/2007 9:15:19 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	We are going tomorrow to see the ring again, and maybe purchase it....Wish me luck... Here is a far off example of the setting with the ring...I mean the bottom is 18K gold, and it has the platinum top with prongs and 2 rows of the diamonds on the sides, but it has the Ushape prongs like this...Looks pretty close.....http://www.engagement-ring-mountings.com/five_stone_ring_settings_info_1149.htm I'll let you know what happens!
Posted: 5/9/2007 9:15:19 PM

P: 5/10/2007 1:28:44 AM
angeline Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,942 Last Post: 11/14/2009 Member Since: 7/23/2006	Date: 5/9/2007 9:15:19 PM Author: Aprilstar We are going tomorrow to see the ring again, and maybe purchase it....Wish me luck... Here is a far off example of the setting with the ring...I mean the bottom is 18K gold, and it has the platinum top with prongs and 2 rows of the diamonds on the sides, but it has the Ushape prongs like this...Looks pretty close.....http://www.engagement-ring-mountings.com/five_stone_ring_settings_info_1149.htm I'll let you know what happens! Wow that looks gorgeous! Good luck with what you decide. If you saw the stone in person and you loved it, you can save lots of time and effort in buying locally. You might get bigger for less online and I went the online route but you need to have the stomach for it, if you know what I mean. Takes a bit more time. Good luck again for tomorrow! We need pics if you get it! a
Posted: 5/10/2007 1:28:44 AM

P: 5/10/2007 4:49:34 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	That combo can look great, sounds like you have found your diamond! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/10/2007 4:49:34 AM

P: 5/10/2007 7:01:32 AM
InlovewithJHK Cut Rock Total Posts: 234 Last Post: 10/14/2008 Member Since: 1/12/2007	Thats about what my hubby paid for a G VS that is 1.28 at a B&M, and while I think he may have overpaid by a little, I love my diamond! If you love it, then go for it!
Posted: 5/10/2007 7:01:32 AM

P: 5/10/2007 7:42:50 AM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	Thanks guys for your replies. I don't not want to get the ring cause I think I can get a better deal on line, cause that is not what my fiance wants to do and I am not comfortable either with it, though I know many people have. This jeweler has very good service and if I wanted to upgrade (which I don't reallly see right now), you don't have to spend twice as much to upgrade, just your price of the jewelry and 1/2 that. Also before I left, I got him to throw in a $100 steam cleaner! I was commenting about how having the stone cleaned makes such a difference and he was saying he sells steam cleaners there, so I got him to throw one in if we went back today (which we were anyway). I have one other question.........If you saw the picture, you can imagine like I said that it has double rows of 4 on each side of diamonds, It actually looks like it could be a wedding ring instead of an engagement ring. I know a lot of engagement rings, if they are not solitaire can look like wedding rings, but I am afraid, it has so much bling and boldness, that it may be taken for a wedding ring when my friends or people I know see it, and then they will be like "Did you get married!"............
Posted: 5/10/2007 7:42:50 AM

P: 5/10/2007 7:30:18 PM
Aprilstar Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 2/13/2008 Member Since: 5/5/2007	IT WAS AN AGS 000! When I looked at the paper, there was a zero on each line and I thought it had to have all three 000's after the AGS, but when I asked the jeweler today, he said it means AGS 000, it just listed each zero separately after the Light Performance, Proportion Factors, and Finish...Also the Polish and symmetry were ideal.. And it has perfect hearts and arrows... If we get the ring, I will somehow try to put pictures on here of it. Thanks for everyone's help.
Posted: 5/10/2007 7:30:18 PM

P: 5/10/2007 7:38:34 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 5/10/2007 7:30:18 PM Author: Aprilstar IT WAS AN AGS 000! When I looked at the paper, there was a zero on each line and I thought it had to have all three 000's after the AGS, but when I asked the jeweler today, he said it means AGS 000, it just listed each zero separately after the Light Performance, Proportion Factors, and Finish...Also the Polish and symmetry were ideal.. And it has perfect hearts and arrows... If we get the ring, I will somehow try to put pictures on here of it. Thanks for everyone's help. That is fabulous, Aprilstar!!! You did great! We'll look forward to seeing your pictures! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 5/10/2007 7:38:34 PM

P: 5/10/2007 8:02:01 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	Congratulations, we'd love to see pictures!!!
Posted: 5/10/2007 8:02:01 PM

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