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 If you had $75,000 to spend on a loose diamond what would you get?

P:  3/6/2007 9:01:40 AM  
Diamond Luver
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If you had $75,000 to spend on a loose diamond stone what would you get and which vendor would you use? Then after you purchased the loose diamond who would you choose to make up the setting?  Leon Mege or someone else?  My friend's husband is buying her a new ring and she can spend up to $100,000 on it incuding the setting.

 


Posted:  3/6/2007 9:01:40 AM

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P: 3/6/2007 9:14:39 AM
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Wow...that is insane. If it were me, I would get a really big asscher cut. I used the search tool on pricescope and it looks like you can get a 4 or 5 carat asscher for around $60,000-$80,000.

Then I'd get a Leon Mege setting with some pave and possibly baguette or trap side stones. Franfine has a sick emerald cut with tapered baguettes and pave on the shank from Leon Mege. I'd get something like hers.

Of course, your friend could always get a big fat round brilliant. I personally prefer fancy cuts for extra-large diamonds. Once you get past like 3.5-4 carats in a round it starts to look like too much, in my opinion. (But if I had a 4.5 carat round, I'd still wear it everyday! )

What shape diamond is your friend trying to get?

Posted:  3/6/2007 9:14:39 AM
P: 3/6/2007 9:22:14 AM
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I'd get WF to find me a big emerald-cut and have Leon Mege halo it and set it in a micropave split-shank. Alternatively, I'd buy Harry Winston's micropave cushion cut.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 9:22:14 AM
P: 3/6/2007 9:26:46 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 9:14:39 AM
Author: thing2of2
Wow...that is insane. If it were me, I would get a really big asscher cut. I used the search tool on pricescope and it looks like you can get a 4 or 5 carat asscher for around $60,000-$80,000.

Then I'd get a Leon Mege setting with some pave and possibly baguette or trap side stones. Franfine has a sick emerald cut with tapered baguettes and pave on the shank from Leon Mege. I'd get something like hers.
That's not with the cut quality search though.

I've been dreaming of the exact same stone as you, and in a really well cut Asscher, which you definitely want, it's well over 100,000.00.

I would have GOG find me the biggest Asscher I could get, G VS1, maybe VS2, and have Leon Mege do a setting.

But Asschers aren't for everyone....


Your friend is really lucky!!

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Posted:  3/6/2007 9:26:46 AM
P: 3/6/2007 9:33:21 AM
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My friend my be leaning towards a cushion.  What do you think of that?  If so, should she be dealing with Mark Turnowski at Engagement Rings Direct?  Any thoughts on a setting for a big honking cushion?

Posted:  3/6/2007 9:33:21 AM
P: 3/6/2007 9:35:51 AM
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The HW micropave setting!

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Posted:  3/6/2007 9:35:51 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:04:37 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 9:33:21 AM
Author: Diamond Luver
My friend my be leaning towards a cushion. What do you think of that? If so, should she be dealing with Mark Turnowski at Engagement Rings Direct? Any thoughts on a setting for a big honking cushion?
Yes, Mark seems to be the "go to" guy for cushions. And I ditto Harriet on the Harry Winston setting.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/6/2007 10:04:37 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:10:03 AM
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Ellen,
Isn't it gorgeous?

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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:10:03 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:12:03 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 10:10:03 AM
Author: Harriet
Ellen,
Isn't it gorgeous?
Beyond...

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/6/2007 10:12:03 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:14:39 AM
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Do you think Leon can recreate it?

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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:14:39 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:15:41 AM
Ellen
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I would think so.

ETA, there would have to be some minor changes I believe, infringement rights...

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/6/2007 10:15:41 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:16:51 AM
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Sorry for threadjacking. I'm waiting for Leon to give me a quote for setting a green tsavorite in that style.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:16:51 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:33:32 AM
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i'd go for the largest finest emerald cut set very simply in a very fine platinum mounting. 


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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:33:32 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:42:08 AM
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GOG for a perfect asscher and MWM for a gorgeous yet simple platinum setting. I've always thought that a really beautiful asscher crys out for a more spare type of setting.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:42:08 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:57:03 AM
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with that kind of $$ i'd go visit neil lane.  he has some to die for rings.

Posted:  3/6/2007 10:57:03 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:24:39 AM
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Lucky lady.  I think huge asscher with Leon setting, maybe like Pokey's magnificent ring.   

Posted:  3/6/2007 11:24:39 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:39:29 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 9:26:46 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 3/6/2007 9:14:39 AM
Author: thing2of2
Wow...that is insane. If it were me, I would get a really big asscher cut. I used the search tool on pricescope and it looks like you can get a 4 or 5 carat asscher for around $60,000-$80,000.

Then I'd get a Leon Mege setting with some pave and possibly baguette or trap side stones. Franfine has a sick emerald cut with tapered baguettes and pave on the shank from Leon Mege. I'd get something like hers.
That's not with the cut quality search though.

I've been dreaming of the exact same stone as you, and in a really well cut Asscher, which you definitely want, it's well over 100,000.00.

I would have GOG find me the biggest Asscher I could get, G VS1, maybe VS2, and have Leon Mege do a setting.

But Asschers aren't for everyone....


Your friend is really lucky!!
asschers aren't for everyone... heck, if I could have a 5 carat asscher I'd give up my cushion.  Ooops I didn't say that LOL!!  I like BIG asschers!! haha

Sara

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stands at the cradle of true art and true science.
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Posted:  3/6/2007 11:39:29 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:45:00 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 11:39:29 AM
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asschers aren't for everyone... heck, if I could have a 5 carat asscher I'd give up my cushion. Ooops I didn't say that LOL!! I like BIG asschers!! haha


I'm glad your cushion got sent off so it didn't hear you say that. 

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  3/6/2007 11:45:00 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:46:22 AM
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Date: 3/6/2007 9:01:40 AM
Author:Diamond Luver
If you had $75,000 to spend on a loose diamond stone what would you get and which vendor would you use? Then after you purchased the loose diamond who would you choose to make up the setting? Leon Mege or someone else? My friend's husband is buying her a new ring and she can spend up to $100,000 on it incuding the setting.

well I wouldn't spend 25k on a setting... I'd leave at most 15k but probably spend less than 10k and really, I could be happy with less than 5k LOL

That leaves a lot more for the diamond ;) 

If it were my only diamond and this was instead of what I have... I would be torn between a D str blue and a K/L/M hued stone... and it would probably be a cushion, but I would have to find a way to get one from my favorite cushion cutter and it would be 4-5 carats depending on which color direction I went in.

I don't know that I have a way I'd do it - I like the way I'm doing the ring I'm doing now so that's my first impulse is to say that I'd do that... but really it would depend on the stone. 

But if I got to keep the diamond I have... then I'd probably get a 2 carat round pendant and go on a 2 month tour of europe LOL  Or I'd get an 5-8 carat ruby and have it set in a beveled diamond halo...

I'd probably get at least 2 different things out of that kind of cash.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 11:46:22 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:47:14 AM
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Seems like there's some deep, hidden Asscher-longing out there! Asschers, Cushions or Emeralds might tempt me in Super-Size! But a trip to Neil Lane is a good idea in that price range too ...

Posted:  3/6/2007 11:47:14 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:51:56 AM
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If it had to be an engagement ring:

1.  An antique cushion cut solitaire ring from Cartier, Van Cleef or Chaumet - private dealer
2.  The largest semi-modern brilliant cushion I could afford set in a very delicate micro pave split shank Leon setting with intricate pave gallery work to my specifications.
3.  BIG FAT Royal Asscher in a Daniel K setting (the  or Rosebud setting)

If not and it could be anything.  I would want a cushion shaped Kashmiri Sapphire in a delicate pave halo.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 11:51:56 AM
P: 3/6/2007 11:55:13 AM
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I suppose I should look at Asshers.

Meanwhile...not easy to spend that kind of cash.

I still do like rounds.  Here's one...at $83K, just a smidgen over budget...and I think we can lose some cash from the ring to include it.

Or, if a cushion, and Mark at ERD, here's one similarly priced to look at...though it's hard to get features live even very good symmetry, as they get big.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 11:55:13 AM
P: 3/6/2007 12:42:26 PM
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Date: 3/6/2007 11:51:56 AM
Author: Nicrez

If it had to be an engagement ring:

1. An antique cushion cut solitaire ring from Cartier, Van Cleef or Chaumet - private dealer
2. The largest semi-modern brilliant cushion I could afford set in a very delicate micro pave split shank Leon setting with intricate pave gallery work to my specifications.
3. BIG FAT Royal Asscher in a Daniel K setting (the or Rosebud setting)

If not and it could be anything. I would want a cushion shaped Kashmiri Sapphire in a delicate pave halo.

LOL Nicrez....I like the way you think!!

I'd make it an asscher or an antque-y cushion for sure.  HW, Cartier, or VCA would be nice too,  but I guess I'd settle for an LM!  LOL.

Almost ANYTHING other than an RB!

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Posted:  3/6/2007 12:42:26 PM
P: 3/6/2007 12:53:02 PM
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Date: 3/6/2007 11:45:00 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 3/6/2007 11:39:29 AM
Author: Cehrabehra
asschers aren't for everyone... heck, if I could have a 5 carat asscher I'd give up my cushion. Ooops I didn't say that LOL!! I like BIG asschers!! haha


I'm glad your cushion got sent off so it didn't hear you say that.

bahahahaha!!!  Cushions, Emeralds, and Asschers to ME are best big.  Especially Asschers.  But I can't afford a 5 carat asscher so cushion is safe LOL

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Posted:  3/6/2007 12:53:02 PM
P: 3/6/2007 1:31:04 PM
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Funny but I think Asschers are best at a certain range.  Sometimes the larger ones are too unweildy and heavy...  I would say that from 1.5cts to 7cts, they are at their nicest.  my ideal Asscher range is a nice chunky 4ct.  Yummy.  I tried one on and it was perfect for my smaller hands.  I think the LARGER stones can look good in cushions and ovals, etc because the depth (or crown) isn't there to make the stone so heavy...

So in the 3-5CT+ range with that budget i would even seriously consider a well cut Emerald.  N nice emerald with good proportions and a clean classic setting, a la Harry with the double claw prong...*swoon*   I think emeralds and radiants are the best cuts for a stone of LARGE proportions (over 5+).   IMHO...

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Posted:  3/6/2007 1:31:04 PM
P: 3/6/2007 1:35:20 PM
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Date: 3/6/2007 1:31:04 PM
Author: Nicrez

So in the 3-5CT+ range with that budget i would even seriously consider a well cut Emerald. N nice emerald with good proportions and a clean classic setting, a la Harry with the double claw prong...*swoon* I think emeralds and radiants are the best cuts for a stone of LARGE proportions (over 5+). IMHO...
HI:

I couldn't agree more......

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Posted:  3/6/2007 1:35:20 PM
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Date: 3/6/2007 1:31:04 PM
Author: Nicrez
Funny but I think Asschers are best at a certain range. Sometimes the larger ones are too unweildy and heavy... I would say that from 1.5cts to 7cts, they are at their nicest.

I was just thinking that yesterday when I saw Eliz. Hurley's FIFTEEN CARAT ASSCHER in the Celeb Rings Thread. From a distance it looks super "blah" ... like a big ol' ice cube. Too much room between the steps to have the scint or fire to charm.

Diamondfan's 10 ct-ish EC, however, is phenomenal! EC's somehow "work" big! ... As do old style cushions ... DELISH.

I kinda think COLOR helps as you go bigger too ... Canary anyone?

Posted:  3/6/2007 1:45:23 PM
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I'd get either a humongous asscher or cushion for 90K....and then save around 10-15K for a Leon Mege setting. I would not halo such a large beast. On the asscher, maybe I'd have graduated emerald cuts inside the shank, going from large to small as they go down the sides of the shank....with milgrain.  On the cushion, I'd probably do a simple 3-sided pave shank, around 2.5mm wide.

Posted:  3/6/2007 1:53:50 PM
P: 3/6/2007 2:08:59 PM
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Cushion or emerald cut.  Very simple setting.  If EC I would put on side baguettes.  If cushion some very minimal pave on the prongs and basket.  For me, the bigger the stone gets, the more simplicity is better.  Lengths approaching 14mm do not look very nice on my hand, so it would have to stay smaller than that.

I probably would not prefer a giant, giant round, but I could see the money going on a stunning D color round.  I don't like rounds much over 4ct.

With that budget I would definitely be thinking long run value/rarity and would want a high color, high clarity stone.  Having done that, I guess the 100K would go very fast!

Posted:  3/6/2007 2:08:59 PM
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To me, this is a better question than “what would you do if you won the lotto”. Or basically, it’s the same question!
a 3 ct perfect old european cut in an antique setting.
Or, I would get a 3 ct Radiant and set it with traps.
Or, lol, a 3 ct round brilliant solitaire.

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Posted:  3/6/2007 3:16:18 PM
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I'd get this ring. This is one shown has a 3 carat cushion... I'd go up to 4 carats, depending on budget. And I would get high color.. DEF. By Leon.


 

 

Posted:  3/6/2007 4:11:29 PM

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