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Rate my princess please.... |
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| P: 3/5/2007 12:46:37 PM | |
hardsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 24 Last Post: 3/13/2007 Member Since: 3/5/2007 |
So I am looking to buy the following and have done a lot of reading on the importance of Depth and Table percentages.... just wondering what the experts here think and if there is anything else I need to find out before I go for it..... Princess 1.05ct G colour SI1 clarity D 72.6 T 69 5.65 X 5.64 X 4.10 Girdle S.Thick to V.Thick Polish & Sym: V Good From looking at the cert... it has a cloud in the middle of it... how will a cloud look in the flesh? Do I need to try and find out the Crown height? Would very much appreciate any help any of you can be in giving me tips/things to find out/opinions. |
| Posted: 3/5/2007 12:46:37 PM | |
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| P: 3/5/2007 2:01:27 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,145 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
pictures, preferably. check out: http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/princess-cut-diamond-140229.htm#
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| Posted: 3/5/2007 2:01:27 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2007 3:36:34 PM | |
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DiaGem Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,927 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 10/21/2004 |
Is the SI grade based on the cloud? or there are more inclusions? ********************** |
| Posted: 3/5/2007 3:36:34 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM | |
hardsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 24 Last Post: 3/13/2007 Member Since: 3/5/2007 |
yes - it just has the cloud - I am told it's 'eye clean'. I just want to know really how I can be sure it has lots of fire and sparkle when the GIA certs dont show the pavillion/crown height and depth........? another I am now interested in has the dimensions: 5.58 x 5.55 x 3.97 - a girdle of thin to thick and D 71.5 and T 68 how does that sound?
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| Posted: 3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,145 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
you can't know from a GIA report.
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| Posted: 3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2007 5:06:36 PM | |
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DiaGem Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,927 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 10/21/2004 |
Date: 3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM If a Diamond's clarity grade is SI is based solely on a cloud...., I would strongly suggest not to purchase it until you see it with your own eyes while comparing it to a cloudless Diamond of same color and of VS clarity!!!!Author: hardsearch yes - it just has the cloud - I am told it's 'eye clean'. I just want to know really how I can be sure it has lots of fire and sparkle when the GIA certs dont show the pavillion/crown height and depth........? another I am now interested in has the dimensions: 5.58 x 5.55 x 3.97 - a girdle of thin to thick and D 71.5 and T 68 how does that sound? It might be eyeclean but lifeless!!!!!!!! Watch out! ********************** |
| Posted: 3/5/2007 5:06:36 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2007 5:11:11 PM | |
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DiaGem Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,927 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 10/21/2004 |
Date: 3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM 100% correct!!!!Author: JulieN you can't know from a GIA report. The GIA (paper) report is not a visual tool!!! Fancy shapes MUST be seen prior to a purchasing decision! ********************** |
| Posted: 3/5/2007 5:11:11 PM | |
| P: 3/6/2007 7:24:04 AM | |
hardsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 24 Last Post: 3/13/2007 Member Since: 3/5/2007 |
...they have both turned out to be sold anyway! *sigh* How frequently is it worth me doing a search and looking through Pricescopes list? How often do the lists get updated?
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| Posted: 3/6/2007 7:24:04 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2007 9:02:32 AM | |
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thing2of2 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,661 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/1/2007 |
If you are ready to buy, you should probably just pick a vendor and tell them what you're looking for. Then let them pick stones for you to check out. When I was searching for a diamond, that's what worked the best for me. I was also searching for a fancy cut (radiant) and I feel like it's harder to know what to look for in fancy cuts, even though I had done my research regarding depth, table %, etc. And I don't know if you've checked them out yet, but Whiteflash has some amazing princess cuts in their "A Cut Above" line.
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| Posted: 3/6/2007 9:02:32 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2007 10:25:02 AM | |
hardsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 24 Last Post: 3/13/2007 Member Since: 3/5/2007 |
Thanks for the info... I saw those WF ones but they are a bit beyond my budget :) Does anyone know how frequently is it worth me doing a search and looking through Pricescopes list? How often do the lists get updated?
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| Posted: 3/6/2007 10:25:02 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2007 10:32:57 AM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
my guess is that the lists get update once weekly but you have to keep in mind, vendors are getting new supplies at different times. the suggestion of picking a vendor to work with is a good one because you have the chance to know about a diamond before it ever hits the list.
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| Posted: 3/6/2007 10:32:57 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2007 3:28:46 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,145 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
twice a week, methinks, but the lists are only as good as the incoming data, and sometimes that can take a little while.
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| Posted: 3/6/2007 3:28:46 PM | |
| P: 3/7/2007 5:45:49 AM | |
hardsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 24 Last Post: 3/13/2007 Member Since: 3/5/2007 |
Firstly - thanks for all your comments so far - it is greatly appreciated. Now... I want to ask about Girdles... from looking on WF all of their top end princess diamonds have a girdle of between thin and medium --- what does that really mean in terms of how good a diamond will look in the flesh? I have seen details of a nice looking one which has a girdle of thick to very thick (everything else seems fine with it) so just wondering what I should be looking for here? I know seeing it in the flesh would be the best... but thats not really possible... so anything else would be helpful. Thanks, A.
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| Posted: 3/7/2007 5:45:49 AM | |
| P: 3/7/2007 3:28:42 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,145 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
Just means that the stone is carrying extra weight in its belly. Once it gets to ridiculously thick, you may run into problems with setting the stone.
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| Posted: 3/7/2007 3:28:42 PM | |
| P: 3/7/2007 3:40:29 PM | |
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jazmine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,013 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005 |
I would choose to stick with thin to medium on the girdle. Not very thin, as this can result in chipping. You won't notice a difference with the naked eye but a diamond with a thick girdle will not face up as large because it is holding weight in the belly.
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| Posted: 3/7/2007 3:40:29 PM | |
| P: 3/7/2007 4:07:38 PM | |
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aquarius_ser Cut Rock Total Posts: 269 Last Post: 4/18/2008 Member Since: 4/12/2006 |
I went with a lower depth for my princess so it faced up bigger.... low 60's... that's just me though
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| Posted: 3/7/2007 4:07:38 PM | |
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