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 Rate my princess please....

P:  3/5/2007 12:46:37 PM  
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So I am looking to buy the following and have done a lot of reading on the importance of Depth and Table percentages.... just wondering what the experts here think and if there is anything else I need to find out before I go for it.....

Princess
1.05ct
G colour
SI1 clarity
D 72.6
T 69
5.65 X 5.64 X 4.10
Girdle S.Thick to V.Thick
Polish & Sym: V Good

From looking at the cert... it has a cloud in the middle of it... how will a cloud look in the flesh?
Do I need to try and find out the Crown height?

Would very much appreciate any help any of you can be in giving me tips/things to find out/opinions.

Posted:  3/5/2007 12:46:37 PM

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P: 3/5/2007 2:01:27 PM
JulieN
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pictures, preferably.

check out: http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/princess-cut-diamond-140229.htm#

Posted:  3/5/2007 2:01:27 PM
P: 3/5/2007 3:36:34 PM
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Is the SI grade based on the cloud? or there are more inclusions?

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Posted:  3/5/2007 3:36:34 PM
P: 3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM
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Rough Rock
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yes  - it just has the cloud - I am told it's 'eye clean'.
I just want to know really how I can be sure it has lots of fire and sparkle when the GIA certs dont show the pavillion/crown height and depth........?

another I am now interested in has the dimensions:

5.58 x 5.55 x 3.97 - a girdle of thin to thick and D 71.5 and T 68

how does that sound?

Posted:  3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM
P: 3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM
JulieN
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you can't know from a GIA report.

Posted:  3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM
P: 3/5/2007 5:06:36 PM
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Date: 3/5/2007 4:40:08 PM
Author: hardsearch
yes - it just has the cloud - I am told it's 'eye clean'.
I just want to know really how I can be sure it has lots of fire and sparkle when the GIA certs dont show the pavillion/crown height and depth........?

another I am now interested in has the dimensions:

5.58 x 5.55 x 3.97 - a girdle of thin to thick and D 71.5 and T 68

how does that sound?
If a Diamond's clarity grade is SI is based solely on a cloud...., I would strongly suggest not to purchase it until you see it with your own eyes while comparing it to a cloudless Diamond of same color and of VS clarity!!!!

It might be eyeclean but lifeless!!!!!!!! Watch out!

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>Y<

Yoram F.

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Posted:  3/5/2007 5:06:36 PM
P: 3/5/2007 5:11:11 PM
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Date: 3/5/2007 4:43:26 PM
Author: JulieN
you can't know from a GIA report.
100% correct!!!!
The GIA (paper) report is not a visual tool!!!
Fancy shapes MUST be seen prior to a purchasing decision!

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>Y<

Yoram F.

Antique Diamond Gem
http://www.diagem.net/

"When it doesn't exist, design it..." Sir Henry Royce

Posted:  3/5/2007 5:11:11 PM
P: 3/6/2007 7:24:04 AM
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Rough Rock
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...they have both turned out to be sold anyway! *sigh*
How frequently is it worth me doing a search and looking through Pricescopes list?  How often do the lists get updated?

Posted:  3/6/2007 7:24:04 AM
P: 3/6/2007 9:02:32 AM
thing2of2
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If you are ready to buy, you should probably just pick a vendor and tell them what you're looking for. Then let them pick stones for you to check out.

When I was searching for a diamond, that's what worked the best for me. I was also searching for a fancy cut (radiant) and I feel like it's harder to know what to look for in fancy cuts, even though I had done my research regarding depth, table %, etc.

And I don't know if you've checked them out yet, but Whiteflash has some amazing princess cuts in their "A Cut Above" line.

Posted:  3/6/2007 9:02:32 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:25:02 AM
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Thanks for the info... I saw those WF ones but they are a bit beyond my budget :)

Does anyone know how frequently is it worth me doing a search and looking through Pricescopes list?  How often do the lists get updated?

Posted:  3/6/2007 10:25:02 AM
P: 3/6/2007 10:32:57 AM
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my guess is that the lists get update once weekly but you have to keep in mind, vendors are getting new supplies at different times.  the suggestion of picking a vendor to work with is a good one because you have the chance to know about a diamond before it ever hits the list.



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Posted:  3/6/2007 10:32:57 AM
P: 3/6/2007 3:28:46 PM
JulieN
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twice a week, methinks, but the lists are only as good as the incoming data, and sometimes that can take a little while.

Posted:  3/6/2007 3:28:46 PM
P: 3/7/2007 5:45:49 AM
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Firstly - thanks for all your comments so far - it is greatly appreciated.

Now... I want to ask about Girdles...  from looking on WF all of their top end princess diamonds have a girdle of between thin and medium --- what does that really mean in terms of how good a diamond will look in the flesh?

I have seen details of a nice looking one which has a girdle of thick to very thick (everything else seems fine with it) so just wondering what I should be looking for here?

I know seeing it in the flesh would be the best... but thats not really possible... so anything else would be helpful.

Thanks, A.

Posted:  3/7/2007 5:45:49 AM
P: 3/7/2007 3:28:42 PM
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Just means that the stone is carrying extra weight in its belly.  Once it gets to ridiculously thick, you may run into problems with setting the stone.

Posted:  3/7/2007 3:28:42 PM
P: 3/7/2007 3:40:29 PM
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I would choose to stick with thin to medium on the girdle. Not very thin, as this can result in chipping. You won't notice a difference with the naked eye but a diamond with a thick girdle will not face up as large because it is holding weight in the belly.

Posted:  3/7/2007 3:40:29 PM
P: 3/7/2007 4:07:38 PM
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I went with a lower depth for my princess so it faced up bigger....  low 60's...  that's just me though

Posted:  3/7/2007 4:07:38 PM

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