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Help on decision btw. HOF Dream and GOG Square H&A

P: 3/5/2007 11:52:41 AM
RL Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 3/5/2007 Member Since: 3/4/2007	I am in the market for a square hearts & arrows diamond. I recently found out that the Jubilee has been discontinued that leaves me to decide between the Hearts on Fire "Dream" which I saw and did absolutely love. Howerver, it comes with a brand name price tag (H/ VVS1 /1.26 ct. - $17,900). I spoke to the guys at GOG, and although the Jubille is no longer available, they have whats called a Square H & A. I have not yet seenone in person, but according to the inventory list a close comparison is (D/VVS2/1.22 ct. - $15,433). I really need to see this square H&A in person to make my decision, but does anyone have any advice opinions or suggestions that could help me make a successful purchase. I would greatly appreciate it.
Posted: 3/5/2007 11:52:41 AM

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P: 3/5/2007 12:00:58 PM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,839 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Ask GOG to make you a video. I think they do that so hopefully that would help Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 3/5/2007 12:00:58 PM

P: 3/5/2007 12:06:53 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/5/2007 12:00:58 PM Author: Skippy123 Ask GOG to make you a video. I think they do that so hopefully that would help Absolutely! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/5/2007 12:06:53 PM

P: 3/5/2007 1:28:16 PM
bosoxbw Rough Rock Total Posts: 69 Last Post: 5/10/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	Date: 3/5/2007 11:52:41 AM Author:RL I am in the market for a square hearts & arrows diamond. I recently found out that the Jubilee has been discontinued that leaves me to decide between the Hearts on Fire 'Dream' which I saw and did absolutely love. Howerver, it comes with a brand name price tag (H/ VVS1 /1.26 ct. - $17,900). I spoke to the guys at GOG, and although the Jubille is no longer available, they have whats called a Square H & A. I have not yet seenone in person, but according to the inventory list a close comparison is (D/VVS2/1.22 ct. - $15,433). I really need to see this square H&A in person to make my decision, but does anyone have any advice opinions or suggestions that could help me make a successful purchase. I would greatly appreciate it. I'm actually a little surprised; the brand name premium on the Dream does not seem to be that bad... I think the Square H&As are very nice, but I think you need to actually see them in person. Start with a video, see if you like it, and then see if GOG will send it out to an independent appraiser near you for a pre-purchase inspection.
Posted: 3/5/2007 1:28:16 PM

P: 3/5/2007 1:57:16 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/5/2007 1:28:16 PM Author: bosoxbw Date: 3/5/2007 11:52:41 AM Author:RL I am in the market for a square hearts & arrows diamond. I recently found out that the Jubilee has been discontinued that leaves me to decide between the Hearts on Fire 'Dream' which I saw and did absolutely love. Howerver, it comes with a brand name price tag (H/ VVS1 /1.26 ct. - $17,900). I spoke to the guys at GOG, and although the Jubille is no longer available, they have whats called a Square H & A. I have not yet seenone in person, but according to the inventory list a close comparison is (D/VVS2/1.22 ct. - $15,433). I really need to see this square H&A in person to make my decision, but does anyone have any advice opinions or suggestions that could help me make a successful purchase. I would greatly appreciate it. I'm actually a little surprised; the brand name premium on the Dream does not seem to be that bad... I think the Square H&As are very nice, but I think you need to actually see them in person. Start with a video, see if you like it, and then see if GOG will send it out to an independent appraiser near you for a pre-purchase inspection. Well, that price isn't truly representitive, as the Dream is an H. Take it up say, a thousand per color grade, and then you're looking at about 22,000.00 vs. 15,500.00 for the same specs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/5/2007 1:57:16 PM

P: 3/5/2007 6:16:24 PM
RL Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 3/5/2007 Member Since: 3/4/2007	O.K. Ellen even if you add $4,000 for 4 color grades, what about the higher clarity and carat weight, how should those factors be considered. Also, I will be in New York this weekend, so I am planning to go to GOG in person to see for myself. Thanks for the advice.
Posted: 3/5/2007 6:16:24 PM

P: 3/5/2007 6:25:43 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,919 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	Have fun at GOG this weekend. Let us know how you like the Square H&A. I like it myself but have never seen one in person. ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 3/5/2007 6:25:43 PM

P: 3/5/2007 6:31:48 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 3/5/2007 6:16:24 PM Author: RL O.K. Ellen even if you add $4,000 for 4 color grades, what about the higher clarity and carat weight, how should those factors be considered. Also, I will be in New York this weekend, so I am planning to go to GOG in person to see for myself. Thanks for the advice. I actually missed the clarity difference, was thinking they were the same. It would easily be a grand for each clarity grade as well. The ct. size doesn't factor. That's great that you'll get to go there and see for yourself! Let us know how it goes, and what you decide. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 3/5/2007 6:31:48 PM

P: 3/5/2007 7:12:55 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	I'd never consider paying the HOF mark-up since you can get the same thing (or in this case BETTER!) for less. It's not like diamonds have a brand label showing! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 3/5/2007 7:12:55 PM

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