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 what do you think of this 1.5ct G SI3 diamond?

P:  2/16/2007 3:35:38 PM  
mcblohe
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Measurements 7.27 - 7.22 x 4.55 mm
Depth 62.8
Table 60.0
Crown 12.7
Pavilion 43.4

i can't get a HCA score, as it says the girdle is too thick.
so is this stone really bad?
thanks

 


Posted:  2/16/2007 3:35:38 PM

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P: 2/16/2007 3:37:15 PM
Ellen
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You can do better.

If you'd like some help, let us know.

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Posted:  2/16/2007 3:37:15 PM
P: 2/16/2007 3:37:56 PM
jazmine
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Have you seen it? SI3 is very likely to have visible inclusions.

Posted:  2/16/2007 3:37:56 PM
P: 2/16/2007 3:39:28 PM
diamondseeker2006
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A 1.5 carat diamond should be about 7.4 mm, so this diamond has the appearance of a smaller diamond. In addition, the SI3 probably translates to I1 grading at other labs such as GIA or AGS.  I think you could do much, much better than this stone.




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Posted:  2/16/2007 3:39:28 PM
P: 2/16/2007 3:46:08 PM
kev_800
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It also depends upon the price...  what is the price of that diamond? Give us your budget and I'm sure you'll get other suggestions....

Posted:  2/16/2007 3:46:08 PM
P: 2/16/2007 3:58:41 PM
mcblohe
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The price of this stone is $4900. My budget is about max $6000. I would like a 1.5ct. can i get anything eye clean?

Posted:  2/16/2007 3:58:41 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:16:38 PM
Ellen
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Date: 2/16/2007 3:58:41 PM
Author: mcblohe
The price of this stone is $4900. My budget is about max $6000. I would like a 1.5ct. can i get anything eye clean?
The reason the stone is so cheap is because of the poor cut.

Lesson number one, CUT is king. It is the most important thing to focus on. And a well cut 1 ct. stone will face up/look better/bigger than a poorly cut 1.25.

So, I would advise getting the best cut stone you can, which in an I or J is somewhere in the 1.15-1.24 range. And if you go with someone who has a good upgrade policy, you can trade it in down the road.

Are you considering online?

And if so, here's an example of what you could get. Not saying buy this one, just giving you an idea.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-183723.htm#

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:16:38 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:19:51 PM
Kaleigh
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Date: 2/16/2007 4:16:38 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 2/16/2007 3:58:41 PM
Author: mcblohe
The price of this stone is $4900. My budget is about max $6000. I would like a 1.5ct. can i get anything eye clean?
The reason the stone is so cheap is because of the poor cut.

Lesson number one, CUT is king. It is the most important thing to focus on. And a well cut 1 ct. stone will face up/look better/bigger than a poorly cut 1.25.

So, I would advise getting the best cut stone you can, which in an I or J is somewhere in the 1.15-1.24 range. And if you go with someone who has a good upgrade policy, you can trade it in down the road.

Are you considering online?

And if so, here's an example of what you could get. Not saying buy this one, just giving you an idea.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-183723.htm#
Ditto

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Posted:  2/16/2007 4:19:51 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:37:25 PM
mcblohe
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what abt this one?
http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=34599904
thanks

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:37:25 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:42:56 PM
Ellen
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EGL Israel is known for soft grading, which means it could be up to 2 color and clarity grades off.

Best to stick with GIA and AGS.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:42:56 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:47:05 PM
mcblohe
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what about EGL USA then?

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:47:05 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:49:44 PM
Kaleigh
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It's better, but I would still stick with AGS or GIA....

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Posted:  2/16/2007 4:49:44 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:50:17 PM
Ellen
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They are said to be the strictist of the EGL labs. You could consider one from them, but I personally would have it independantly appraised just to be sure you're getting what you pay for.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:50:17 PM
P: 2/16/2007 4:52:30 PM
mcblohe
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Anybody knows of any appraisers in Birmingham, AL?

Posted:  2/16/2007 4:52:30 PM
P: 2/16/2007 6:15:15 PM
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Honestly, I'd pass on this stone

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Posted:  2/16/2007 6:15:15 PM
P: 2/16/2007 6:28:27 PM
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1.42? http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131&item=858447

You can check for appraisers under Resources.

Posted:  2/16/2007 6:28:27 PM

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