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Any thoughts on this stone? |
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| P: 2/14/2007 5:45:28 PM | |
Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-23765.htm# Any red flags? Is the table too big? Is a faceted girdle not a good idea? Thanks so much!!
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| Posted: 2/14/2007 5:45:28 PM | |
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There are 17 replies to this message. There are 17 replies on this page. |
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| P: 2/14/2007 6:03:38 PM | |
Ohio Rocks Rough Rock Total Posts: 39 Last Post: 8/28/2008 Member Since: 2/8/2006 |
Looking at the IS image, I see some leakage.
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| Posted: 2/14/2007 6:03:38 PM | |
| P: 2/14/2007 6:09:42 PM | |
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avlis Cut Rock Total Posts: 237 Last Post: 8/20/2008 Member Since: 10/22/2006 |
ya, the IS isnt as good as it could be, I also dont like the 3 year old GIA report. Faceted girdles are fine. You can do better than this stone.
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| Posted: 2/14/2007 6:09:42 PM | |
| P: 2/14/2007 6:25:37 PM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
Thanks! This is the type of stats and budget we're looking at...any suggestions for similar stones with better numbers? |
| Posted: 2/14/2007 6:25:37 PM | |
| P: 2/14/2007 6:26:54 PM | |
whatmeworry Ideal Rock Total Posts: 855 Last Post: 8/30/2009 Member Since: 5/24/2006 |
In this thread http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=57936 there is an GIA VG cut stone with almost the same specs (crown, pav, table) as the one you are looking at.
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| Posted: 2/14/2007 6:26:54 PM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 9:44:43 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
Sorry for bumping my threads up but I just wanted to see if anyone else had any other opinions? I've asked WF for their opinion on the stone and to see what else they could find for my budget. They did say this stone is eye clean. Thanks everyone! |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 9:44:43 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 9:50:33 AM | |
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
ok, there is some leakage and the table is on the large size, but to my eyes even though the numbers are outside ideal range, it is an attractive diamond - I have seen much worse!! See what the good folk at WF say about it, it also looks very clean for an SI2, going by the picture it looks good to me, even though there are far better on paper.
 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 9:50:33 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 9:58:33 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
Thanks! I'm worried about the leakage as well so I've asked them about that. They seem like a great vendor so hopefully they'll be able to find me something better in my budget. I went from wanting a cushion to a round so it's hard to mentally switch modes I guess :) |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 9:58:33 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:15:47 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
See what they say, if nothing else comes up then this still might be a contender. If you want a Superideal then this isn't the one, but if a " nice make" of cut is what you want for the budget, then this might work.
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:15:47 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:18:47 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
It doesn't need to be ideal...just gorgeous of course :) I was just thinking we could get a larger carat weight for our budget if we go just slightly outside of ideal parameters. I guess I can trust WF's eyes to tell me whether this stone performs anywhere close to where the ideal stones perform. |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:18:47 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:21:24 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Actually, I really like the look of this diamond and I have seen loads from WF in the almost 2 years I have been here. This one has really caught my interest as a very attractive stone, I will be curious to say what WF says as to whether it is a possible for you....
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:21:24 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:29:44 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
Based on the measurements does it face up as it's carat weight? I'm not sure how to figure out what the mm diameter is. Thanks! |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:29:44 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:36:56 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
What about these stones? They are not in house so there's only the GIA report. http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-173681.htm# http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-176467.htm# http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-195544.htm# |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:36:56 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:41:15 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Yes, the first diamond faces up how it should with the mm diameter. The next diamond you posted has a shallow crown angle, with no info it is hard to say how it might look - big table again too. The second has possibilities, but we need more info as it isn't in house. Of course with SI clarities, with the diamonds not being in house it is hard to tell if they are eyeclean. I can't seem to open the GIA report for the third, but this too looks like it might have possibilities. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:41:15 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 10:54:49 AM | |
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Murr4168 Cut Rock Total Posts: 101 Last Post: 12/3/2007 Member Since: 3/25/2006 |
Thanks!! Here are a couple more, again not in house...unfortunately the majority of in house stones are out of my budget. http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-173884.htm# I was wondering about this one too but there's no cert online http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-145318.htm |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 10:54:49 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 11:52:36 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
I got excited for a moment thinking that the first diamond was within firey ideal cut range, but it isn't. I think you can do better than this diamond, it scores a 2.7 on the HCA. The second diamond we can't say as we need the crown and pavillion angles.
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 11:52:36 AM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 12:03:00 PM | |
FacetFire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,878 Last Post: 6/23/2009 Member Since: 6/27/2006 |
Have you seen this one? http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=937901 Or this one? http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=936545 Or, if you are comfortable dropping to I color: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=860767
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| Posted: 2/15/2007 12:03:00 PM | |
| P: 2/15/2007 12:13:13 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Nice options FF!
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 2/15/2007 12:13:13 PM | |
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