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P: 2/14/2007 12:10:42 PM
rjb25 Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 2/14/2007 Member Since: 2/14/2007	I've scanned most of the forum seeking answers to my questions, but for some reason, it gives me more confidence to have my specific questions answered. I know...a little quirky...moving on. I'm going to be purchasing an engagement ring. After reading nearly every online jewelers "the four c's" section, I thought I decided on exactly what was the best diamond for my money......until I found this website. For some reason, most jewelers don't stress the importance of cut. After reading all of the explanations on this site, it makes perfect sense to me. So here goes the question and I know its been asked before...humor me please :) I was settled on a 1ct princess cut, color F, clarity vs1, with a cut of "vg". This put me in the $4500-$6000 range. If I upgrade to an ideal cut, or super ideal cut, or fancy-shmancy ideal cut I'll need to change some of the other attributes to keep within my budget. So the question is what would the non-beginners of this board recommend as a starting point. Some addtional information: the stone will be placed in a platinum ring with the following description Number of Diamonds: 6 baguette Carat Weight: 0.75 Diamond Color: Near Colorless Diamond Clarity: VS Setting Type: Channel Set This link is a union diamond pic of what I'm buying. http://www.uniondiamond.com/jewelry/jewelry.php?action_type_id=31&pic_name=PR_JEA1076P.jpg&width=540&height=610&item_id=967&curr_shape_symbol=PR One thought was that if the baguettes are "near-colorless".....will my F be obviously different? I also read about "eye-clear si1"....but then read that it is somewhat subjective what eye clear really is. Whats the lowest grade of clarity I go and be confident she's not going to see inclusions? Thank you for any and all help. Sorry to repeat the same old questions but it seems at least some of you love talking about these things so hopefully you don't mind too much :)
Posted: 2/14/2007 12:10:42 PM

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P: 2/14/2007 12:35:46 PM
Stone Hunter Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,778 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 5/12/2006	If you drop the color a little bit that will quickly drop the price. That way you can afford to go up in cut. Dropping clarity doesn't seem to drop the price as much, in proportion. As far as how low to go in color each person here on PS has their own opinion. You have to be happy with what you get. How color sensitive is the person who will wear it? Can you go look at diamonds in stores that are GIA graded just to figure out what colors you like? I say GIA graded because then you know that you are looking at an F and comparing it to an I. Some/many B&M stores get certs from companies that are more color tolerant so their store I might be more like a GIA K. So if you're going to buy a GIA stone look at GIA stones that are F through J to see what pleases you. Once you know what colors you like you can move on to the clarity and weight. HTH
Posted: 2/14/2007 12:35:46 PM

P: 2/14/2007 12:38:56 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Hi rj, If I were you, to get the most bang for your buck, I would go down in color, to a G, possibly H. Claritywise, you could definitely consider an SI1, each stone has to be evaluated independantly. There are totally eyeclean SI1's, as in you can't see anything from any distance at any angle. I would get the best cut. Here's an example of what you could get, and it looks like it could definitely be eyeclean, but again, you would need to ask them. They're a great company, will be totally honest with you, and I have bought from them. http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/A-Cut-Above-Princess-cut-diamond-47404.htm# ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 2/14/2007 12:38:56 PM

P: 2/14/2007 12:41:57 PM
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004	Date: 2/14/2007 12:38:56 PM Author: Ellen Hi rj, If I were you, to get the most bang for your buck, I would go down in color, to a G, possibly H. Claritywise, you could definitely consider an SI1, each stone has to be evaluated independantly. There are totally eyeclean SI1's, as in you can't see anything from any distance at any angle. I would get the best cut. Here's an example of what you could get, and it looks like it could definitely be eyeclean, but again, you would need to ask them. They're a great company, will be totally honest with you, and I have bought from them. http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/A-Cut-Above-Princess-cut-diamond-47404.htm# Nice find, Ellen. I ditto everything she said, and I love that stone she picked. shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter.
Posted: 2/14/2007 12:41:57 PM

P: 2/14/2007 12:57:43 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Thanks Shay, I thought it looked pretty snazzy myself. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 2/14/2007 12:57:43 PM

P: 2/14/2007 1:14:04 PM
rjb25 Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 2/14/2007 Member Since: 2/14/2007	Thank you for the advice. I think we will visit a retailer to see first hand what the differences actually look like. Pretty sure I'll be purchasing online though, and your link looks like a great place to start. Thanks!!
Posted: 2/14/2007 1:14:04 PM

P: 2/14/2007 1:36:29 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	You're welcome, and I think looking at some in person first is a good thing! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 2/14/2007 1:36:29 PM

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