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Help Needed on Princess Cut DIamond |
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| P: 1/29/2007 10:02:43 AM | |
Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Everyone, Depth: What should it be I have seen such different numbers on these two things that's making it very confusing?? I have narrowed down my search to purchasing the diamond from James allen, bluenile or diamonds.com. What internet site would be better. If anyone has any ideas please let me know as my time is really running out. |
| Posted: 1/29/2007 10:02:43 AM | |
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There are 26 replies to this message. There are 26 replies on this page. |
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| P: 1/29/2007 10:36:48 AM | |
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Ohio Rocks Rough Rock Total Posts: 39 Last Post: 8/28/2008 Member Since: 2/8/2006 |
Try whiteflash...I found this stone that you might like. http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/a-cut-above-princess-cut-diamond-47404.htm
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 10:36:48 AM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 10:52:49 AM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Looks beautiful, but should I be concerned because it is a SI1?
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 10:52:49 AM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 11:28:03 AM | |
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Ohio Rocks Rough Rock Total Posts: 39 Last Post: 8/28/2008 Member Since: 2/8/2006 |
It looks like a very nice SI1 to me. You can call whiteflash and ask Brian or John to look at the stone to make sure it's eye clean. Usually, SI's are a very good bang for your buck if they are eye clean.
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 11:28:03 AM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 1:03:21 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Has anyone used Exceldiamonds before?? It seems like there prices are really good, whats the catch? I found these, any thoughts? http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/51588.html http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/31198.html
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 1:03:21 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 1:52:32 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
haven't yet figured out the catch. Excel does not own those princesses, while most other vendors do own the stones they list. the princesses that people have had called in by Excel, then posted on PS all seem very nice.
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 1:52:32 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 8:10:18 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Does anyone have any ideas, i am looking to spend about 4,300. Any help would really be appricated. I am running out of time,. Thank You!!!!!
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 8:10:18 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 8:32:41 PM | |
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JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
what color and clarity were you thinking of getting?
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 8:32:41 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 8:52:14 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Well i was hoping for: color: E-H clarity: No lower then a VS1 Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 8:52:14 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 9:00:23 PM | |
shiatsu Rough Rock Total Posts: 62 Last Post: 2/1/2007 Member Since: 1/2/2007 |
Date: 1/29/2007 8:52:14 PM Author: Hamids clarity: No lower then a VS1 You may want to look at VS2s as well then. If you've seen a VS1 and VS2 side by side before, how different were they? (hint: if you had seen the two side by side you wouldn't be ruling out VS2, even trained and experienced appraisers often disagree on whether a stone should be VS1 or VS2, if you send it to GIA twice you may get VS1 the first time and VS2 the second time) |
| Posted: 1/29/2007 9:00:23 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 9:04:14 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Very good point, Lets add that to the search. Thank you for your advice!!!!
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 9:04:14 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 9:18:02 PM | |
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JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
So if the first thing you would give up is carat weight, then http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/156.html If going to I VS1 http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/31234.html http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-40108.htm (4384 if pay by wire) I VS2 http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/31244.html Got a little extra change? http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/51608.html http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/51587.html Anyway, I figure you're pretty safe, but always good to ask the usual questions: how close does the lab report correlate to the vendor's opinions, any durability issues, eye-clean, and decide if you want to send it to an independent appraiser.
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 9:18:02 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 9:27:42 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Thanks You Julie for all your help!!!! If i need to extent my budget i will. If you where choosing the diamond which one would you pick. This getting more and more difficiult. Its hard to pick one over the other!!
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 9:27:42 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 9:42:59 PM | |
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shiatsu Rough Rock Total Posts: 62 Last Post: 2/1/2007 Member Since: 1/2/2007 |
Well a pricescope search brings up this little gem: http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00400236 It's a 1.04 carat, H color, VS1 clarity, and AGS-001 cut for $4800, about $500 more than you wanted to spend . And Excel Diamond has a 1.21 carat, H color, and VS2 clarity they say is AGS0 (no cert listed) for $4464: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/51608.html it's a it bigger than you were looking for but a better value and the difference between 1.0 carat and 1.20 isn't very noticeable. And you'd probably need a scale to tell difference between 1.1 carat and 1.2 carat. However, it doesn't look like they have it in stock, once they get it to look at it might have old cert that doesn't grade cut like they do now (like the Whiteflash one above) or it might be AGS1 or something. And if you don't mind going $700 above what you wanted to spend James Allen has this 1.09 ct, H color, VS2, AGS-000 for $5000: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1016503 And Julie posted quite a few I color stones above well within your price range if you were to go a slightly lower on the color scale than you were looking for. |
| Posted: 1/29/2007 9:42:59 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 10:05:24 PM | |
FacetFire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,878 Last Post: 6/23/2009 Member Since: 6/27/2006 |
Excel/Superbcert is the first place I would go for a princess cut...a lot of those diamonds that don't have pics actually are in-house. I recently emailed them about one I was interested in, and they got back to me very quickly with a pic and idealscope. They are great at answering questions...I have also purchased a setting from them in the past and was very pleased. I also like that they carry some ideal princess cuts that aren't quite as deep as those at whiteflash, because you can get a bigger face-up look. If it were my money, I'd inquire about this one: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/51587.html I think the I color will be great and it faces up large.
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 10:05:24 PM | |
| P: 1/29/2007 10:57:14 PM | |
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
i wouldn't rule out SI graded stones either!
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| Posted: 1/29/2007 10:57:14 PM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 8:29:45 AM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Thanks again everyone for your help on this, I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this. The question I was thinking about last night is, do I go with a smaller carat with better color and clarity? I do not think size is a issue with my girlfriend and she will be excited with anything I pick. But I was wondering if I go a little smaller and get a better color diamond, will it sparkle more? Thanks again!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 8:29:45 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 8:57:08 AM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
the cut has the most important impact on sparkle. if you want a 'sparkly' stone, you need to focus on cut. color and clarity will not help a diamond sparkle.
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 8:57:08 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 9:17:12 AM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
I know this is going to sound really ignorant, but how can you tell with any of the cut on any diamonds listed above. I would rather go with a lower carat but better cut?? 
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 9:17:12 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 9:32:53 AM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
Date: 1/30/2007 9:17:12 AM not ignorant at all.Author: Hamids I know this is going to sound really ignorant, but how can you tell with any of the cut on any diamonds listed above. I would rather go with a lower carat but better cut?? you can get a general gauge of cut quality from the information provided. the type of grading report itself gives information about the diamond. grading reports from ags labs usually indicate a high cut quality. this can be confirmed if the stone (graded by ags) has the '0' grade in light performance. an idealscope image is also extremely helpful, especially if you do not have an ags grading report.
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 9:32:53 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 10:10:12 AM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Thanks Belle!!!!!!!!!!Ok so it seems like i am on the right track!! I have emailed Exceldiamonds on a few of the diamonds listed above for the AGS report and the idealScope pictures. Hopefully i will get those today and will share them with everyone. THANKS AGAIN THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 10:10:12 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 10:19:06 AM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
you're welcome hamids have fun searching!
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 10:19:06 AM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 6:03:10 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Ok I need your thoughts on this one: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/31234.html AGS O Carat : 1.06 Clarity : VVS2 Color : I Depth : 72.6 Table : 69.2% Girdle : Medium to thick Culet : None Polish : Ideal Symmetry : Ideal Fluorescence : None Actual Ideal Scope Photo: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/31234.html THANKS AGAIN!!!
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 6:03:10 PM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 6:11:06 PM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
nice hamids! you will be very happy with that diamond, i'm sure.
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 6:11:06 PM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 6:27:13 PM | |
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Hamids Rough Rock Total Posts: 12 Last Post: 1/30/2007 Member Since: 1/29/2007 |
Do you think the ideal scope is good, i have a hard time trying to figure that out?
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 6:27:13 PM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 6:29:45 PM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
it looks good for sure. the good thing is, it is an ags0 so you know you're good.
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 6:29:45 PM | |
| P: 1/30/2007 6:34:26 PM | |
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JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
nice.
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| Posted: 1/30/2007 6:34:26 PM | |
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