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 Cartier...You'll never believe it

P:  1/28/2007 12:28:13 PM  
blondie23
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"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."
Posted:  1/28/2007 12:28:13 PM

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P: 1/28/2007 12:35:19 PM
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Wow,  Blondie!  What an interesting story!  Who'd a thunk it??

Do come back and post pics when your masterpiece arrives

Congratulations!

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Posted:  1/28/2007 12:35:19 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:41:37 PM
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Wow, Blondie, that's quite a story! Unbelievable - what a deal! Did you ask Cartier about it? I'd be curious to know if their business model wrt e-rings is changing or what.

I would imagine you don't want to say anything though in case they made a pricing error and you're the lucky one to benefit!

Thanks for sharing and welcome to the PS Forum!

Posted:  1/28/2007 12:41:37 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:41:41 PM
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Yay Blondie, I'm so glad you were able to get exactly what you wanted and at a great price to boot. You proved that good research does pay off. please come back and post pics of your ring. I know it will be fabulous.





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Posted:  1/28/2007 12:41:41 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:49:01 PM
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By the way, just curious, which Cartier was this?

Posted:  1/28/2007 12:49:01 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:51:20 PM
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"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 12:51:20 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:51:51 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 12:41:41 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Yay Blondie, I'm so glad you were able to get exactly what you wanted and at a great price to boot. You proved that good research does pay off. please come back and post pics of your ring. I know it will be fabulous.
HI:

My sentiments exactly.  Congrats!

cheers--Sharon

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Posted:  1/28/2007 12:51:51 PM
P: 1/28/2007 12:58:58 PM
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I hope WF will comment (if they are able to, of course).

"The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)

Posted:  1/28/2007 12:58:58 PM
P: 1/28/2007 1:12:20 PM
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Wow, what a wonderful story!  I'd like to try that out myself!!! Congratulations!




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Posted:  1/28/2007 1:12:20 PM
P: 1/28/2007 1:43:01 PM
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That IS a great story, how exciting, can't wait to see it!!!  Yay for you Blondie!!!!

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Posted:  1/28/2007 1:43:01 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:00:51 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 12:58:58 PM
Author: Harriet
I hope WF will comment (if they are able to, of course).

Why?

Why would the price of one engagement ring from Cartier be any of their concern. Whiteflash sets *their own* prices and individual Cartier stores are able to do the same.

It's important to note that Whiteflash doesn't claim to be *the best deal* in every circumstance ... they make their prices public & with the environment here, it's easy to compare "online" prices at least.

That's what's so GREAT about a forum like this ... it gives INDIVIDUALS all the tools they need to go out into the marketplace and get the best deal THEY can find. Sometimes hitting the streets *in person* pays off!

Posted:  1/28/2007 2:00:51 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:07:07 PM
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Really hard to believe...., but enjoy it!!!
tell you the truth..., its sounds as someone in Cartier made a big BOO-BOO!!!

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Posted:  1/28/2007 2:07:07 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:23:19 PM
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Wow, that is surprising, but in an oh so nice way. Congrats, I bet you are just giddy!

Please post pics, and welcome!

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Posted:  1/28/2007 2:23:19 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:34:09 PM
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Your story is beaming with excitement!!! I’m so happy for you – Congrats!!! Please post some hand shots when you receive your beauty!!!

Posted:  1/28/2007 2:34:09 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:45:06 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 2:00:51 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 12:58:58 PM
Author: Harriet
I hope WF will comment (if they are able to, of course).

Why?

Why would the price of one engagement ring from Cartier be any of their concern. Whiteflash sets *their own* prices and individual Cartier stores are able to do the same.

It's important to note that Whiteflash doesn't claim to be *the best deal* in every circumstance ... they make their prices public & with the environment here, it's easy to compare 'online' prices at least.

That's what's so GREAT about a forum like this ... it gives INDIVIDUALS all the tools they need to go out into the marketplace and get the best deal THEY can find. Sometimes hitting the streets *in person* pays off!
First of all, congratulations to Blondie.

I don't mean that WF should address the issue of price-matching. I mean that they should expain the uniqueness of their ACAs, and how that might necessitate a premium (this is assuming that forum rules permit them to do so). I'd love a branded ring too, but the ACA cut is truly beautiful and I'm happy to pay a premium for it. 

Btw, cute doggy.

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Posted:  1/28/2007 2:45:06 PM
P: 1/28/2007 2:51:18 PM
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Wow, I'm amazed and thrilled for you!!  My experiences at tiffany's have always been really overpriced, but it seems cartier was almost spot on for a branded stone and setting, awesome!!!  I wonder if this is a sign of changing times, cartier made a mistake, or WF's branded stones sell at a premium?

Posted:  1/28/2007 2:51:18 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:06:08 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 2:07:07 PM
Author: DiaGem
Really hard to believe...., but enjoy it!!!
tell you the truth..., its sounds as someone in Cartier made a big BOO-BOO!!!


This is the best explanation I can imagine. DiaGem would know.




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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:06:08 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:11:20 PM
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"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:11:20 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:28:17 PM
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^^
Thanks so much for posting this price info Blondie23!
I will make sure to visit my local Cartier store this week to see if they can offer similar prices for the same quality. I think the 1895 solitaire setting is timeless and very beautiful. Congrats and enjoy your beautiful purchase! Please post pics with hand shots when you receive your ring

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:28:17 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:29:40 PM
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I'm glad for you, but this is strange. I just called the Vegas Cartier, and here's what they quoted:

3.06 RB, Ideal, G, VS1, $141,000.

Compare it to:
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-72794.htm

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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:29:40 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:32:15 PM
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I am glad you are getting a fine deal out of Cartier.  They do many beautiful designs and it's a great feeling to have a ring from them. 

I think the price is pretty good, and maybe I am getting confused about the stone + setting pricing.  You can get a similar G, 1.5ish diamond for quite a lot less, like this, for example:

http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?__fun_frm=i&pid=LD00137325&filter_id=0

Of course, that would not include the type of setting you are getting, so maybe that is the difference. 

Anyhow, it is fabulous to own something from Cartier and you'll treasure it.  Look forward to seeing the photos!

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:32:15 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:32:20 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 2:45:06 PM
Author: Harriet
Date: 1/28/2007 2:00:51 PM

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Date: 1/28/2007 12:58:58 PM

Author: Harriet

I hope WF will comment (if they are able to, of course).


Why?


Why would the price of one engagement ring from Cartier be any of their concern. Whiteflash sets *their own* prices and individual Cartier stores are able to do the same.


It's important to note that Whiteflash doesn't claim to be *the best deal* in every circumstance ... they make their prices public &amp; with the environment here, it's easy to compare 'online' prices at least.


That's what's so GREAT about a forum like this ... it gives INDIVIDUALS all the tools they need to go out into the marketplace and get the best deal THEY can find. Sometimes hitting the streets *in person* pays off!
First of all, congratulations to Blondie.


I don't mean that WF should address the issue of price-matching. I mean that they should expain the uniqueness of their ACAs, and how that might necessitate a premium (this is assuming that forum rules permit them to do so). I'd love a branded ring too, but the ACA cut is truly beautiful and I'm happy to pay a premium for it.


Btw, cute doggy.


I think WF's ACA's are fairly represented here. Some find them worth the premium, others like the close ACA's of the expert selection, others are just happy with finding a stone that is beautiful to them, others like the whole package of stone and setting. I am very familiar with WF's ACA's and they are stunning, but my non-branded AGS stone is just as pretty to me I agree with deco that this is what is so great about this site, if gives individuals the tools to educate themselves and find what is a priority to them.





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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:32:20 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:33:05 PM
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"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:33:05 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:36:49 PM
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"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:36:49 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:38:04 PM
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It could be that the price differential rises exponentially according to size. Thanks to you, I know where to look for a non-RB.

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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:38:04 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:40:28 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 3:11:20 PM
Author: blondie23
Thanks everyone for the replies. After reading everyone's posts, I never really thought that Cartier made a mistake, but that is definitely a possibility. SO, out of curiousity, I decided to call the Vegas and Denver Cartier and act like I was interested in buying and this is what they told me:

Denver:

1.52 ct, RB, ideal cut, G, VS2 for $17,265

1.53 ct, RB, ideal cut, H, VS1 for $17,200

Vegas:

1.49 ct, RB, ideal cut, H, VS2 for $17,000
1.51 ct, RB, ideal cut, G, VS2 for $17,600

So, maybe Cartier is changing its prices because these are all pretty consistent.

Either way, I'm stoked!!!
They actually quoted you these pricess over a phonecall??? that IS strange...

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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:40:28 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:41:16 PM
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They sure did!!!

"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:41:16 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:41:22 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 3:11:20 PM
Author: blondie23
Thanks everyone for the replies. After reading everyone's posts, I never really thought that Cartier made a mistake, but that is definitely a possibility. SO, out of curiousity, I decided to call the Vegas and Denver Cartier and act like I was interested in buying and this is what they told me:

Denver:

1.52 ct, RB, ideal cut, G, VS2 for $17,265

1.53 ct, RB, ideal cut, H, VS1 for $17,200

Vegas:

1.49 ct, RB, ideal cut, H, VS2 for $17,000
1.51 ct, RB, ideal cut, G, VS2 for $17,600

So, maybe Cartier is changing its prices because these are all pretty consistent.

Either way, I'm stoked!!!

The only thing I can think of is that once they price and item, maybe it stays that way until sold. Because in those prices above, the H stones' prices are too close to the G prices.  A 1.49 H VS2 should be a good bit less than a 1.53 H VS1. And the G stones should be more than $200 more than the H's.




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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:41:22 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:42:46 PM
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you all would know more than I do.  I have no idea how diamond pricing works, but I am super excited!

"I wish I had a thousand words for love, but all that comes to mind is the way you move against me while you sleep and there are no words for that..."

Posted:  1/28/2007 3:42:46 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:45:26 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 3:42:46 PM
Author: blondie23
I have no idea how diamond pricing works, but I am super excited!


and you should be. I just love that cartier setting and to have the real deal would be worth any premium to me. and it looks like you got a great stone to go with it, the great price being icing on the cake





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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:45:26 PM
P: 1/28/2007 3:48:13 PM
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Date: 1/28/2007 3:42:46 PM
Author: blondie23
you all would know more than I do. I have no idea how diamond pricing works, but I am super excited!

You should be super-excited! You did get a good deal for a designer ring! We just can't understand how it happened. I was pricing Cartier watches last night, and one with a white gold case and leather band was over $5000, which illustrates the huge mark-up for the name.




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Posted:  1/28/2007 3:48:13 PM

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