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P: 12/15/2006 2:50:20 PM
ttieu Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 12/15/2006 Member Since: 12/15/2006	I was wondering what everyone thoughts on this diamond and it's price are: Round Brilliant 7.63 - 7.70 x 4.71 mm 1.71 carat color: H clarity: VS1 cut: very good total depth: 61.4% table size: 62% crown angle: 35.5 degree crown height: 13.5% pavilion angle: 41.6 degree pavilion depth: 44.0 % star length: 55% lower half: 90% girdle: medium to slightly thick faceted: 3.6% culet: none polish: excellent symmetry: very good fluroescence: none Price: $12,600
Posted: 12/15/2006 2:50:20 PM

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P: 12/15/2006 2:53:43 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	Table is too big, crown/pavillion angles not great. You can find a stone with a better cut.
Posted: 12/15/2006 2:53:43 PM

P: 12/15/2006 3:00:42 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Argh, wrote out a big response and lost it. Anywho, you can do better! Use the HCA (up at the top of page under tools) to help weed out stones that aren't desirable. I'll give you your results and you can see what I mean. You want a score of 2 or under. Don't know why I can't get the results to copy, but the stone got a 6.5, Fair. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/15/2006 3:00:42 PM

P: 12/15/2006 3:00:58 PM
oldminer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,966 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/4/2000	The image shows the results of putting some parameters into the do it yourself AGA Cut Class grading tool. It comes out a decent diamond, but not ideally cut. It is not necessarily a bad choice. The price is a factor. Use the Pricescope search to see what diamonds like this or ones cut even better are selling for and you will have a pretty good set of facts to work with. David S. Atlas GG(GIA), ASG, Sr. Mbr. NAJA www.datlas.com
Posted: 12/15/2006 3:00:58 PM

P: 12/15/2006 4:34:05 PM
ttieu Rough Rock Total Posts: 2 Last Post: 12/15/2006 Member Since: 12/15/2006	Ellen, if it scored a fair on the cut, why did GIA give it a grade of very good?
Posted: 12/15/2006 4:34:05 PM

P: 12/15/2006 6:27:39 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	Its angles don't fit in GIA EX parameters. How did you come across this stone?
Posted: 12/15/2006 6:27:39 PM

P: 12/15/2006 9:02:05 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 12/15/2006 4:34:05 PM Author: ttieu Ellen, if it scored a fair on the cut, why did GIA give it a grade of very good? If I'm understanding your question, because GIA includes this type of stone (called a steep/deep) in that category. The HCA is different, and penalizes that type of stone. I'm not sure where you are in regards to diamond buying, but if you're just getting started, I would recommend reading the tutorial section here, there's a wealth of info! Also, I'll include a thread on GIA grading, it might help also. There are great GIA stones out there, but they require more knowledge in finding them. http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=41371&forumID=3&catID=&search=1&searchstring= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/15/2006 9:02:05 PM

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