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Please help -- buying Asscher, need ADVICE!!

P: 12/14/2006 8:47:40 PM
pittsburgh66 Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 2/2/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	I have been searching and researching for several months, and this is what it's coming down to... I'd really like some feedback on the following center stone. 1.24 F VVS2 Asscher, 68.6 depth, 61 table. 6.07x5.93 x4.07 (1.02); girdle is thick to very thick I have seen the GIA report, which confirms the numbers above. Pictures are below... I also have an IdealScope image, which I will post if requested. Thanks!!
Posted: 12/14/2006 8:47:40 PM

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P: 12/14/2006 8:49:47 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	post the IS please, lots of tilt in the photos. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/14/2006 8:49:47 PM

P: 12/14/2006 8:51:03 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	also have you seen it in person? ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/14/2006 8:51:03 PM

P: 12/14/2006 8:52:53 PM
decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,625 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005	I agree that there is some tilt in the photos ... I like the shape of the stone ... hard to tell for sure about the internal pattern without seeing it DEAD STRAIGHT ON, could be awesome! Curious: what are the SYM & POLISH grades (VG? EX?)
Posted: 12/14/2006 8:52:53 PM

P: 12/14/2006 8:55:41 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	Hope you don't mind: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/37071.html I think its very pretty.
Posted: 12/14/2006 8:55:41 PM

P: 12/14/2006 10:29:38 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Date: 12/14/2006 8:55:41 PM Author: JulieN Hope you don't mind: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/37071.html I think its very pretty. Thanks Julie. I give it a thumbs up pattern wise. Nice patterns and if the crown height is over 10% <-- ask... id give it a kicken. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/14/2006 10:29:38 PM

P: 12/14/2006 10:32:47 PM
scarleta Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,545 Last Post: 9/20/2009 Member Since: 2/25/2006	Is your GIA dated in 2006 or B 4? Where is the GIA nr located on the certificate?
Posted: 12/14/2006 10:32:47 PM

P: 12/15/2006 12:08:00 AM
pittsburgh66 Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 2/2/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	The GIA report is dated Aug. 24, 2006. I have not seen it in person -- it IS the diamond linked to at exceldiamonds, but it is being held for me, so I don't mind the link. Actually, Barry at excel said that the diamond looks even better in person, and guaranteed that I'll love it -- I'm an attorney and I know sales "puffery" when I see it, but I still thought those were strong words from a reputable professional. They put these pics together for me yesterday -- they've been very helpful and professional. Symm and polish grades are both EX. As for a setting, I'm planning on the reproductoin of the 1922 Cartier (yes, I know it's not so unique of a pairing, but it's unique to us and our circle of friends, and that's what matters) . It's a classic look that features the fancy cut of the Asscher, and as it was pointed out that the Asscher doesn't always face up as big as rounds, I think the thin band and small sidestones will help to emphasize the center stone and not overpower it (as might happen with large sides). I have a question on the setting, actually: excel and betterthandiamond.com both offer it, but BTD's version is half the price, and I can get the matching band plus e-ring for the same price as just the e-ring from excel. Links to those pages are: excel Cartier: http://www.exceldiamonds.com/-Engagement-Rings-5/Diamond-Accent-Engagement-Rings-12/Hand-Made-Cartier-Reproduction-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-1129.html BTD Cartier: http://www.betterthandiamond.com/diamonds/jewelry/rings/cartier.ring.php Here is the IS image:
Posted: 12/15/2006 12:08:00 AM

P: 12/15/2006 12:30:05 AM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	I like the BTD version better. I agree with Barry that that asscher should be kicken in person. (as long as the crown height is over 10%?) ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/15/2006 12:30:05 AM

P: 12/15/2006 7:36:47 AM
pittsburgh66 Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 2/2/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	strm, I have asked barry about the crown height -- I'll post his reply ASAP.
Posted: 12/15/2006 7:36:47 AM

P: 12/15/2006 10:17:38 AM
starryeyed Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,587 Last Post: 10/5/2009 Member Since: 11/6/2006	Hi Pittsburgh66. Not sure if anyone welcomed you, so WELCOME to Pricescope! Looks like you've done your homework and found a potentially "storm-worthy" asscher! The color and clarity are superb and the cut is probably very nice - looks great in the photo!
Posted: 12/15/2006 10:17:38 AM

P: 12/15/2006 3:21:47 PM
pittsburgh66 Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 2/2/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	Crown height is 17.4%.
Posted: 12/15/2006 3:21:47 PM

P: 12/15/2006 3:48:27 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	I don't know much about asschers, so I can't comment on the stone. I wanted to comment on your setting. I think your choice to go with the cartier classic is a good one. Even though you don't think it will be unique, asschers are still fairly uncommon and I think the ring will be stunning. I like the better than diamond one better as well. Another option would be having Barry re-create the setting the way you would like.
Posted: 12/15/2006 3:48:27 PM

P: 12/15/2006 4:05:30 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Date: 12/15/2006 3:21:47 PM Author: pittsburgh66 Crown height is 17.4%. kewl Good to go then in my opinion. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/15/2006 4:05:30 PM

P: 12/15/2006 4:19:04 PM
pittsburgh66 Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 2/2/2007 Member Since: 12/14/2006	Megascope: The numbers are slightly different than the GIA, but the l/w ratio is actually better than I had thought.
Posted: 12/15/2006 4:19:04 PM

P: 12/15/2006 5:40:07 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,582 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	you should be aware this stone has a very small spread Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 12/15/2006 5:40:07 PM

P: 12/15/2006 6:32:05 PM
mister Rough Rock Total Posts: 8 Last Post: 12/15/2006 Member Since: 11/22/2006	The asscher looks great. Go for it! Also, I highly reccomend Barry-- He is absolutely phenomenal to work with. I recently purchased a GIA asscher (.8ct) from him, and when I went in to show it to a local jeweler, she about died-- couldn't believe the price I got it for, and said that it was the most beautiful asscher she has ever seen. Here is a pic.
Posted: 12/15/2006 6:32:05 PM

P: 12/15/2006 6:34:19 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Date: 12/15/2006 5:40:07 PM Author: Garry H (Cut Nut) you should be aware this stone has a very small spread here we go again.... compared to what? Compared to a round yea all asschers do. There is no ideal spread for an asscher. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 12/15/2006 6:34:19 PM

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