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P: 11/26/2006 11:40:36 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	1. 1.10 carat, Ideal cut, F color, SI1 clarity, Depth % 61.9, Table % 56, Very Good Symmetry, Excellent Polish, Thin to Medium faceted Girdle, Measurements 6.62 x 6.66 x 4.11 mm 2. 1.00 carat, Ideal cut, E color, SI1 clarity, Depth % 62, Table % 57, Excellent Symmetry, Excellent Polish, Medium to Thick Girdle, Measurements: 6.37 x 6.40 x 3.96 mm 3. 1.09 carat, Ideal cut, D color, SI1 clarity, Depth % 61.9, Table % 57, Very Good Symmetry, Very Good Polish, Medium faceted Girdle, Measurements 6.57 x 6.61 x 4.08 mm What do you guys think of these three?
Posted: 11/26/2006 11:40:36 PM

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P: 11/26/2006 11:52:31 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	Have you seen them?
Posted: 11/26/2006 11:52:31 PM

P: 11/26/2006 11:57:08 PM
kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006	do you have crown/pavillion angles, have you verified they are eye-clean?
Posted: 11/26/2006 11:57:08 PM

P: 11/27/2006 12:15:27 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	I haven't actually seen them. I got them off of Bluenile.com.
Posted: 11/27/2006 12:15:27 AM

P: 11/27/2006 12:44:25 AM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	Maybe http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00159905 http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00193799 provided you can get the AGS reports
Posted: 11/27/2006 12:44:25 AM

P: 11/27/2006 7:44:02 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	I like your choice Julie. What makes this one better? I went out with my girlfriend over the long weekend to a few places just too look at rings, and we decided that we like the solataire look, with a 5 stone wedding band. She fell in love with a stone at Jared the galleria of jewelry, it was 1.09 carat ideal cut, G color, with a SI2 clarity. I however didn't like the $7,200 pricetag for just the stone. I wasn't planning on buying that day, we just thought it would be fun to try some on. I figured I could find a better stone online. Is there a huge difference between the F and the G color? I know that F is colorless, but I really couldn't tell in person.
Posted: 11/27/2006 7:44:02 AM

P: 11/27/2006 8:16:01 AM
jazmine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,013 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005	Who had graded that diamond at Jared's? That price is definetely high. What do you know about the cut of that diamond? Cut is the most important of the 4 Cs, becasue without a super cut, your diamond will lack sparkle and fire.
Posted: 11/27/2006 8:16:01 AM

P: 11/27/2006 9:07:49 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	It was an Ideal cut. They had the GIA report for it. It definitely sparkled.
Posted: 11/27/2006 9:07:49 AM

P: 11/27/2006 6:35:49 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	well, pending AGS reports... I like to pick stones graded by AGS for their light-performance based reports if I'm not able to get an Ideal Scope picture. It's unlikely you'll see the difference between F and G.
Posted: 11/27/2006 6:35:49 PM

P: 11/28/2006 7:19:22 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Would you recommend me going from a F to a G, and upping the clarity to maybe a VS2 or VS1? I am looking for the best possible stone I can get for $6,000-6,500.
Posted: 11/28/2006 7:19:22 AM

P: 11/28/2006 8:09:02 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/28/2006 7:19:22 AM Author: guel8 Would you recommend me going from a F to a G, and upping the clarity to maybe a VS2 or VS1? I am looking for the best possible stone I can get for $6,000-6,500. I would recommend going to G, I have one, you can't see color with them. But stay at SI1 or even SI2 if you're lucky. Thay can both be eyeclean, though not always. With this combo you'll get much bang for your buck! Are you set on buying from BN? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/28/2006 8:09:02 AM

P: 11/28/2006 9:26:56 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	No. I'll buy from anywhere that is reputable and will give me the best deal. I just can't figure out what stone to get. I know I want a round, and its going on a plain solitare band. I decided that I'll get the stone and the band, then in a few months we'll get a five stone wedding band to go with it.
Posted: 11/28/2006 9:26:56 AM

P: 11/28/2006 9:38:38 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/28/2006 9:26:56 AM Author: guel8 No. I'll buy from anywhere that is reputable and will give me the best deal. I just can't figure out what stone to get. I know I want a round, and its going on a plain solitare band. I decided that I'll get the stone and the band, then in a few months we'll get a five stone wedding band to go with it. Ok, here's a really nice one, and my ring came from this company, they're great to work with! Need to ask if it's eyeclean though. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2555/ Then there's this one, but it's a bit more. I've also bought from them, again, great company. This is their branded diamond. They are also running a special on these through the end of this month, 5% back towards a setting from them. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-50482.htm# Again, ask if eyeclean. Eyecleanliness aside, either of these would be stunning. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/28/2006 9:38:38 AM

P: 11/28/2006 9:54:27 AM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Thanks so much for your help Ellen. I will definitly look into these. I know that Whiteflash has a Tiffany style solitare band that might workout nicely. What exactly does H&A stand for again?
Posted: 11/28/2006 9:54:27 AM

P: 11/28/2006 10:23:59 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/28/2006 9:54:27 AM Author: guel8 Thanks so much for your help Ellen. I will definitly look into these. I know that Whiteflash has a Tiffany style solitare band that might workout nicely. What exactly does H&A stand for again? You're welcome! This will explain H&A's for ya. http://www.pricescope.com/hearts_indx.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/28/2006 10:23:59 AM

P: 11/30/2006 6:34:17 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	How about some feed back on these? http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Compare_Diamonds.aspx?idnos=161905,160981,51182,78257#
Posted: 11/30/2006 6:34:17 PM

P: 11/30/2006 6:44:01 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Honestly, you can't go wrong with any of these. So I'd just go for the biggest. (provided it's eyeclean) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/30/2006 6:44:01 PM

P: 11/30/2006 6:55:11 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	What do you think about the H color? I initially wanted an F?
Posted: 11/30/2006 6:55:11 PM

P: 11/30/2006 7:05:58 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	What were your reasons for wanting an F? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/30/2006 7:05:58 PM

P: 11/30/2006 7:16:09 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Colorless? I was just reading, that the cut may even make the H color appear like a G or and F
Posted: 11/30/2006 7:16:09 PM

P: 11/30/2006 7:23:01 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/30/2006 7:16:09 PM Author: guel8 Colorless? I was just reading, that the cut may even make the H color appear like a G or and F Yes, a well cut stone will show less color face up. I think you will be fine with an H. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/30/2006 7:23:01 PM

P: 11/30/2006 8:09:38 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	My original e-ring diamond was an average cut F color. My new stone is an H color ideal cut, and it is plenty white and far more beautiful than the other stone. I always thought my other stone was pretty, but it doesn't even compare with this one! So by all means consider G or H! And I'll second buying form GOG or WF because they have in-house stones and can check inclusions for you, and they provide all kinds of information on the stones. For what it's worth, I do prefer VS2, but I'm in the minority here! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 11/30/2006 8:09:38 PM

P: 11/30/2006 8:12:29 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Thanks again guys/gals. I think I am getting warmer to actually make THE purchase. Now its just a matter of making the big step.
Posted: 11/30/2006 8:12:29 PM

P: 11/30/2006 8:38:16 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Would you guys say that most diamonds that are H&A are a safe bet?
Posted: 11/30/2006 8:38:16 PM

P: 11/30/2006 10:24:05 PM
Kit Cut Rock Total Posts: 411 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/7/2005	Date: 11/30/2006 8:38:16 PM Author: guel8 Would you guys say that most diamonds that are H&A are a safe bet? I think you'll be thrilled with any of the H&A stones offered by PS vendors. I personally have a WF Expert Selection I SI2 and I love it. It is super white, I really think that if I ever were to upgrade I would definitley get a J or even a K, if it is a well cut ROUND stone (other shapes can show color more) you will likely see it as white as will everyone else. The H&A sparkles are what you'll be focusing on! Here's a pic of my stone from WF: and the thread to my e-ring, also a solitaire: http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=38035
Posted: 11/30/2006 10:24:05 PM

P: 12/1/2006 2:36:51 PM
guel8 Rough Rock Total Posts: 57 Last Post: 1/11/2007 Member Since: 11/13/2006	Your e ring is beautiful Kit.
Posted: 12/1/2006 2:36:51 PM

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