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P: 11/6/2006 12:21:04 AM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Hi, I just registered today so forgive me for being so new at this. I was wondering if anyone can help me with this. I have been looking at this ring and I can't decide if I am making a good choice. Here are the specs: 2.21 carat J/VS2 asscher cut 7.18x7.14x4.96mm 69.5% depth 72% table slightly thick girdle excellent polish very good symmetry Is a J in color an "ok" choice? The GIA report says that it has a feather in it. I have tried the ring on and it is beautiful, but I'm afraid that it may be risky to get a J/VS2. I didn't get a chance to use a loupe to check it out. I was just so nervous at the time. This ring is from GDC. Here is the actual pic of it.
Posted: 11/6/2006 12:21:04 AM

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P: 11/6/2006 12:39:01 AM
decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,625 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005	Hi there! The pix looks lovely and if it sang to you & cried out "I am the one!" then by all means, you should have it! I'm an Asscher e-ring gal & pretty liberal in my scope of acceptable specs ... but if you want my opinion about the #s only ... 72% table sounds very very large to me. Most folks around here say keep Asschers under 65% table (mine is 67%). Such a large table will probably make the stone less "fiery" ... but that could be fine if you love it. Color is a personal thing. I've seen a "K" asscher in person, 3cts, that I would have considered ... but ultimately I picked a GIA graded "H". I would also make sure to look at it in a variety of lighting situations .. outside of jewelry store lighting. Have them follow you out to the street or go into office lighting etc. Perhaps you could have a local appraiser check it out & give you advice also if you're not sure of your own judgement. Good luck. Maybe you can take some hand pix next time you visit it!!! YUM! Or if you take that baby home!
Posted: 11/6/2006 12:39:01 AM

P: 11/6/2006 8:25:12 AM
jazmine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,013 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005	Date: 11/6/2006 12:21:04 AM Author:asscherdiamond Is a J in color an 'ok' choice? The GIA report says that it has a feather in it. I have tried the ring on and it is beautiful, but I'm afraid that it may be risky to get a J/VS2. I didn't get a chance to use a loupe to check it out. I was just so nervous at the time. This ring is from GDC. Here is the actual pic of it. I would not call it risky to get a J/VS2. A J asscher will definetly show warmth but since you have seen it in person, you will know what you thought of the color. There is not rule stating that diamonds must be blindingly white, as some prefer a little color. Can you see the inclusion without a loupe?
Posted: 11/6/2006 8:25:12 AM

P: 11/6/2006 8:29:08 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,222 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Welcome. Deco and Jazmine have given you good advice, there is an example of a fabulous 2 ct J Asscher, do a search for Tierhog, many embrace a hint of colour. A feather in a VS2 shouldn't be a problem also depending on the location of it, you could get an independant appraisal just to check it out if you wish. Here is the thread for you TierHog's Royal Asscher Although the cut is a bit different to a generic, it should give you an idea. If you love the J in the diamond you are considering, then that is the important thing! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 11/6/2006 8:29:08 AM

P: 11/6/2006 12:29:43 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Date: 11/6/2006 8:25:12 AM Author: jazmine Date: 11/6/2006 12:21:04 AM Author:asscherdiamond I would not call it risky to get a J/VS2. A J asscher will definetly show warmth but since you have seen it in person, you will know what you thought of the color. There is not rule stating that diamonds must be blindingly white, as some prefer a little color. Can you see the inclusion without a loupe? I tried on the ring in a natural setting with no special lights. He brought 3 rings with different specs to show me, actually. I eliminated one and now I can't decide on the other two. Here are the specs for both rings. 2.02 H/SI2 asscher cut 7.09x7.02x4.86mm 69%table 69.2%depth medium girdle good polish very good symmetry 2.21 carat J/VS2 asscher cut (I like this one b/c I'd pick a VS2 over SI2) 7.18x7.14x4.96mm 69.5% depth 72% table slightly thick girdle excellent polish very good symmetry Side by side I could tell a difference in color but as far as seeing any inclusions with the naked eye, I saw nothing. Please help me choose one.
Posted: 11/6/2006 12:29:43 PM

P: 11/6/2006 12:31:56 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Date: 11/6/2006 8:25:12 AM Author: jazmine Date: 11/6/2006 12:21:04 I would not call it risky to get a J/VS2. A J asscher will definetly show warmth but since you have seen it in person, you will know what you thought of the color. There is not rule stating that diamonds must be blindingly white, as some prefer a little color. Can you see the inclusion without a loupe? I tried on the ring in a natural setting with no special lights. He brought 3 rings with different specs to show me, actually. I eliminated one and now I can't decide on the other two. Here are the specs for both rings. 2.02 H/SI2 asscher cut 7.09x7.02x4.86mm 69%table 69.2%depth medium girdle good polish very good symmetry 2.21 carat J/VS2 asscher cut (I like this one b/c I'd pick a VS2 over SI2) 7.18x7.14x4.96mm 69.5% depth 72% table slightly thick girdle excellent polish very good symmetry Side by side I could tell a difference in color but as far as seeing any inclusions with the naked eye, I saw nothing. Please help me choose one.
Posted: 11/6/2006 12:31:56 PM

P: 11/6/2006 12:59:51 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Thanks for the thread to Tierhog's royal asscher. That's a beautiful ring!
Posted: 11/6/2006 12:59:51 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:08:37 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Do you think that $23,000 is too pricey for this ring?
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:08:37 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:08:51 PM
jazmine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,013 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005	We really need pictures in order to best judge asschers. You have seen them both so I think that you are truly the best judge here. I just did a quick search here. The price is high compared to online stores even with the setting included. But very few B&Ms can match the online vendors.
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:08:51 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:12:32 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I would be HIGHLY skeptical of an SI2 Asscher....Could you see/not see the inclusions? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:12:32 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:16:33 PM
gail013 Cut Rock Total Posts: 335 Last Post: 4/6/2007 Member Since: 9/21/2006	Jazmine is right, that price is high. Do a search of loose stones, and you can get a higher color, if that is what you want, and probably get the setting made or find something almost identical for quite a bit less.
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:16:33 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:18:36 PM
widget Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,254 Last Post: 12/20/2008 Member Since: 11/12/2004	Hi Asscherdiamond! How exciting for you! You are so lucky that you've been able to see these stones and compare them side-by-side. The reason you see so much emphasis on numbers, grades, etc etc on PS is because most people here are aren't as lucky, and are trying to choose a stone sight unseen. If I were you, I'd disregard the stats (assuming they are all fairly priced) and trust my own eyes and heart over any opinions I could get here... JMO widget
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:18:36 PM

P: 11/6/2006 1:46:40 PM
jazmine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,013 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005	Yeah, I can't believe I missed the SI2 part. I highly doubt that diamond is eye clean, as there are plenty of brilliant cut diamonds that are not eye clean at that clarity.
Posted: 11/6/2006 1:46:40 PM

P: 11/6/2006 2:44:17 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	yep. that H/SI2 ring was eye clean. I wore them side by side. The H/SI2 ring costs $140 more than the J/VS2 ring. It also weighs less too. He knocked off a few thousand off the prices of these two rings already. If you go to their website, you will see that they cost $29,000+ Georgiadiamond.com p.19(am I allowed to write this? If not, sorry for breaking the rules)
Posted: 11/6/2006 2:44:17 PM

P: 11/6/2006 2:47:36 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	The rings are from an award winning designer. I don't know if this is the reason why they're so pricey. I noticed that a couple of PS members have used them before too. They seemed pretty happy with their purchase. Should I keep looking?
Posted: 11/6/2006 2:47:36 PM

P: 11/6/2006 2:51:15 PM
asscherdiamond Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 1/25/2007 Member Since: 11/5/2006	What do you guys think would be a reasonable price for this ring? I forgot to mention that it is platinum.
Posted: 11/6/2006 2:51:15 PM

P: 11/6/2006 3:17:33 PM
Eva17 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,005 Last Post: 9/25/2009 Member Since: 7/14/2006	Nice website, but seem Really overpriced!!! Even on some EGL european...
Posted: 11/6/2006 3:17:33 PM

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