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P: 11/5/2006 6:25:11 PM
3force Rough Rock Total Posts: 8 Last Post: 11/15/2006 Member Since: 11/5/2006	I've been reading and learning the diamond tutorial on here for a week or so, as well as all the recent topics on the forum. I'm planning on getting a diamond for my fiancee. Here's a diamond that I've look at and would like to get advice/suggestion from you. Thanks for all your comments. It's a GIA diamond with cert. and with Laser Inscription. Round Brilliant Measurements: 7.00 - 7.07 x 4.37 mm Carat weight: 1.31 Color Grade: F Clarity Grade: IF Depth: 62.1 % Table: 56 % Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted Culet: None Polish: Very Good Symmetry: Excellent Flourescense: Faint I didn't see they crown or pavilion listed, so I was not able to use the Holloway Cut Adviser on this website. The price is quote at $14,000. Please let me know what you think of it. Thanks so much for all your help.
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:25:11 PM

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P: 11/5/2006 6:26:04 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,145 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	if you have the report number and it was graded in 2005, you may be able to look up the angles www.gia.edu/reportcheck
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:26:04 PM

P: 11/5/2006 6:29:45 PM
3force Rough Rock Total Posts: 8 Last Post: 11/15/2006 Member Since: 11/5/2006	I looked at up on there, but it's dated September 2004.
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:29:45 PM

P: 11/5/2006 6:37:39 PM
jayrenay9 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 703 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 8/3/2006	$14,000 doesn't doesn't sound too bad for F/IF, although you don't know everything without all the numbers. Just for comparison sake, here is a 1.32 ct. G VVS2 AGS Hearts and Arrows for $12,450. Still seems like overkill on the clarity, but if that's your thing. Btw, this one faces up a tad bigger too. Edited to add the link... http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-62461.htm
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:37:39 PM

P: 11/5/2006 6:38:55 PM
knuman Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 12/2/2006 Member Since: 10/8/2006	If you are dealing with an online vendor, email them and ask them for those details. Last month I was interested in a diamond with a certificate from September 2004 as well and they were able to provide me with the crown and pavilion angles almost instantly.
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:38:55 PM

P: 11/5/2006 6:40:09 PM
lop Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,651 Last Post: 9/7/2009 Member Since: 6/14/2003	So far, everything sounds alright, although IF adds a pretty stiff premium for something you can't see, but everyone has their comfort levels. For $14,000, I would go back to the vendor and ask for a sarin or another way to get all of the cut stats. They should be able to get them for you. I wouldn't want to spend that much money without knowing the whole story about the stone. Cut will make a much bigger difference on the sparkle and looks of the stone than clarity and you have to have at least crown and pavillion angles to know how it measures up.
Posted: 11/5/2006 6:40:09 PM

P: 11/9/2006 2:32:14 PM
3force Rough Rock Total Posts: 8 Last Post: 11/15/2006 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Ok, I found another diamond with this spec. Can you comment on which is a better between the two? Thanks. The first diamond is posted on top. Here's the 2nd one. This one is just a little less $ compare with the 1st one. #2 Shape: Round Weight: 1.31 Carat Cut Grade: Ideal Color Grade: F Clarity Grade: VVS2 Laboratory: GIA Measurements: 7.00-7.03x4.33mm Depth: 61.7% Table: 56% Girdle: Medium Culet: NONE Polish: EXCELLENT Symmetry: : EXCELLENT Fluorescence: NONE HCA result: Ex-Ex-Ex-Vg (Total Visual Performance 1.5 - Excellent within TIC range)
Posted: 11/9/2006 2:32:14 PM

P: 11/9/2006 4:35:10 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/9/2006 2:32:14 PM Author: 3force Ok, I found another diamond with this spec. Can you comment on which is a better between the two? Thanks. The first diamond is posted on top. Here's the 2nd one. This one is just a little less $ compare with the 1st one. #2 Shape: Round Weight: 1.31 Carat Cut Grade: Ideal Color Grade: F Clarity Grade: VVS2 Laboratory: GIA Measurements: 7.00-7.03x4.33mm Depth: 61.7% Table: 56% Girdle: Medium Culet: NONE Polish: EXCELLENT Symmetry: : EXCELLENT Fluorescence: NONE HCA result: Ex-Ex-Ex-Vg (Total Visual Performance 1.5 - Excellent within TIC range) I'm curious how you got an HCA score, since you didn't post crown and pavillion angles. Do you have them? The info you did post sounds great. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/9/2006 4:35:10 PM

P: 11/9/2006 4:41:46 PM
3force Rough Rock Total Posts: 8 Last Post: 11/15/2006 Member Since: 11/5/2006	Yes, the crown angle is 35 and pavilion angle is 40.8 Forgot to include that. Thanks for you comments.
Posted: 11/9/2006 4:41:46 PM

P: 11/9/2006 4:45:50 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 11/9/2006 4:41:46 PM Author: 3force Yes, the crown angle is 35 and pavilion angle is 40.8 Forgot to include that. Thanks for you comments. Sounds like a winner, and I like it a tad better than the first. I say go for it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 11/9/2006 4:45:50 PM

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