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P:  11/4/2006 8:02:11 AM  
nasayin
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I am in the market for a engagement ring.  Here are the specs:

Round Brilliant
Carat Weight: 1.42
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Very Good


Proportions:


Depth: 62.3 %
Table: 57 %
Crown Angle: 35.5°
Crown Height: 15.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.2°
Girdle: Medium
Culet: None
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Faint


Price: $10935

How are the quality compare to the price?

Thanks!


Posted:  11/4/2006 8:02:11 AM

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P: 11/4/2006 8:40:23 AM
strmrdr
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who is the report/cert by?

Personally I wouldnt buy a diamond with a 40.2 pavilion.
It would look good from across the room but not that great up close.

edit: just saw the good sym which is kicking the price down, which is why it seemed too low.
Id pass and get something better cut.

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  11/4/2006 8:40:23 AM
P: 11/4/2006 12:58:47 PM
nasayin
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thanks for replying.

the cert is from GIA.  what pavilion angle would be good?

Posted:  11/4/2006 12:58:47 PM
P: 11/4/2006 4:02:59 PM
Ellen
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Date: 11/4/2006 12:58:47 PM
Author: nasayin
thanks for replying.

the cert is from GIA. what pavilion angle would be good?
Hi nasayin.

There isn't just one that is good. It takes a balance between the crown angle and the pavillion angle for things to work, along with everything else. There is a tool called the Holloway Cut Adviser (found at top of page), that can help you determine what might be worth buying. Takes some of the guess work out. I'll give you the link, and hope it helps. You want a score under 2 for potentially great performers.

http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

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Posted:  11/4/2006 4:02:59 PM
P: 11/4/2006 4:49:02 PM
nasayin
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Thanks Ellen.
 
The cut advisor gave the score 1.1 so I guess it's pretty good then.

Posted:  11/4/2006 4:49:02 PM
P: 11/4/2006 5:00:53 PM
JulieN
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curious, what is the diameter?

Posted:  11/4/2006 5:00:53 PM
P: 11/5/2006 5:18:49 PM
nasayin
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JulieN:

The measurement on the diamond is 7.06-7.16x4.43mm

Just want to clarify on the pavilion. The pavilion angle is 40.2 and the pavilion height is 42.5.

Posted:  11/5/2006 5:18:49 PM
P: 11/5/2006 8:11:20 PM
Ellen
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Date: 11/4/2006 4:49:02 PM
Author: nasayin
Thanks Ellen.

The cut advisor gave the score 1.1 so I guess it's pretty good then.
As I said before, the HCA can help you find a potentially great diamond. What I failed to elaborate on is the fact that just because a stone gets a good score, it does not mean it's an automatic winner.

In this diamonds case, I'd pass. I personally like PA's of 40.7-41.0, along with a proper crown angle. This stone is just too extreme for me. Also, it's a 1.42, which should have a diameter somewhere around 7.3. I have a 1.4 with a diameter of 7.25. Yours is facing up small. Also, by the difference in the diameter numbers, it doesn't sound really tightly cut, which you'd like to see. 

So, considering these factors, I'd keep looking.

ETA Your best bet is to find one that falls within GIA and AGS.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  11/5/2006 8:11:20 PM

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