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Concerning appraisal re: feather |
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| P: 10/13/2006 1:04:03 AM | |
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TanDogMom Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,919 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/8/2005 |
I appreciate any insight you can share. I needed to get a new appraisal done because I changed my setting and wedding band last year and the new setting cost quite a bit more than the old one. My diamond has a feather in it, but it's been appraised twice before and both of those appraisers said that the feather was not of concern structurally. In fact, my husband chose this stone was due in large part to the favorable appraisal at that time re: the feather (that appraisor is highly regarded by several Pricescope users, BTW, although I didn;t know about pricescope then!) Both prev appraisers rated my stone I, SI1, 1.12 c. I should mention that you can see the feather with the eye but only if you are looking extremely closely, know exactly where to look, and have the diamond held at an extreme angle.
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| Posted: 10/13/2006 1:04:03 AM | |
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| P: 10/13/2006 5:56:46 AM | |
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Regular Guy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,315 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2004 |
Date: 10/13/2006 1:04:03 AM Author:gailrmv I appreciate any insight you can share. I needed to get a new appraisal done because I changed my setting and wedding band last year and the new setting cost quite a bit more than the old one. My diamond has a feather in it, but it's been appraised twice before and both of those appraisers said that the feather was not of concern structurally. In fact, my husband chose this stone was due in large part to the favorable appraisal at that time re: the feather (that appraisor is highly regarded by several Pricescope users, BTW, although I didn;t know about pricescope then!) Both prev appraisers rated my stone I, SI1, 1.12 c. I should mention that you can see the feather with the eye but only if you are looking extremely closely, know exactly where to look, and have the diamond held at an extreme angle. Any chance of going back to the original appraiser? Actually, it's possible he can just reissue a new appraisal, based on your request, for a more modest fee, and in consideration of current valuations? And even without the need to see it again? Just a thought. Ira (Ruffles have Ridges) Z. |
| Posted: 10/13/2006 5:56:46 AM | |
| P: 10/13/2006 7:55:23 AM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Gail, I think Ira has a great idea to just go back to the original appraiser for an update to the original appraisal. Surely an update would cost less than a full new appraisal. On the other hand, I, personally, am most worried about losing my diamond, and I don't care so much about the setting being fully covered. So if there's only an issue of a few hundred doallrs, I might just leave the appraisal as is. Regarding the feather issue, I know what I would be thinking. I'd make a plan to save for a new diamond for the ring for a future anniversary, and plan to set the current diamond in a bezel pendant so you know it will be safe over the long haul. That way you get to keep the diamond you love safe plus get to find a new one from one of the PS vendors!
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| Posted: 10/13/2006 7:55:23 AM | |
| P: 10/13/2006 8:58:57 AM | |
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oldminer Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,964 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/4/2000 |
Was the appraiser an AGS appraiser inside an AGS Retail store, or was this appraiser one of the new and few ICGA, Independant appraisers who belong to AGS and neither buy or sell at retail? It may make a large difference in the credibility you should give to the report. Appraisers inside retail stores often knock the quality of merchandise purchased elsewhere. They use this tactic of creating doubt or fear. Look at the crazy result. Now you are worried and upset with a perfectly good purchase. This is likely to be your situation. So don't be too upset. Call the original source and get an updated appraisal and forget about this recent experience. When the time comes when you need an opinion on any valuable item or topic, consult an UNBIASED expert. There are many experts with distinct bias built in. You just can't get around it when a problem comes up. This is not a message that is anti-AGS, because they do great work in educating jewelers to help consumers. This is a general warning on fear tactics and what the usefulness of unbiased advice is all about. David S. Atlas |
| Posted: 10/13/2006 8:58:57 AM | |
| P: 10/13/2006 9:32:07 AM | |
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TanDogMom Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,919 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/8/2005 |
hi! Thanks everyone who has responded so far. Very helpful! I just wanted to clarify a few things - I don't think it would work to contact the orig appraiser because it has been 6 years and we live across the country now. The new setting and wedding band are worth several thousand, whereas the old one was several hundred, so I would like my appraisal to encompass the new setting as well. I should have just gone indepenendent - I guess I didn't realize that it would be a problem. I wanted to give return business to this store because I've had some good retail experiences with them and since the appraiser was AGS, I thought this would be good enough credentialing. The fear tactic makes a lot of sense now that you mention it. I love the idea of bezel pendent and new stone for the ring, but there's no way it's in the budget right now or for the next few years - so I've got to make this one last! :)
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| Posted: 10/13/2006 9:32:07 AM | |
| P: 10/13/2006 9:38:53 AM | |
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tdiddy Cut Rock Total Posts: 223 Last Post: 10/16/2009 Member Since: 6/29/2006 |
i actually had a similar experience when i went to drop off my stone with FF last week at the jewelry stone. the stone has been viewed by another independent appraiser (also PS recommended) who deemed it quite worthy and structurally fine (also an SI1). the appraiser does not sell jewery. we took the stone to the jeweler setting it, who also is a trained appraiser, and he put it under the scope to take a look and verify the laser inscription on the girdle listed on the GIA cert. after verifying the inscription, he continued to look at it while we filled out paperwork and then called my BF over to show him something he found. long story short, he claimed that there was a feather that broke the surface and would potentially cause damage to the stone when set. he was "very concerned about it." he was also *nice* enough to tell us about similar stones that they had that could replace it. we were pretty nervous about it, but my reaction was "we've had it appraised, it's fine, and will you set it with the flaw? if not, we will have to go somewhere else." jeweler said he'd set it. clearly if this feather that broke the surface was such a crisis, he would not have set it. he is insured and part of the deal is that when they set it, this jeweler in particular agreed to accept responsibilty for the stone if something happens to it in the process. so if it was soooooo bad and could cleave the stone, why would they take on the risk of setting it knowing that? anyway, it's supposed to be done today. FF has NOT gotten a call that anything was amiss and was in fact told it was ready yesterday to be picked up. a fup phone call to the appraiser confirmed all that was said here and that the stone was fine. i also talked to another jeweler via phone about feathers that break the surface just as an inquiring consumer and he told me that he had set stones for almost 20 years that ranged in quality, cert, etc. and had never had a single stone break. although i will admit that we did sweat it for a few days worrying about whether or not it could be, i'm convinced it was just an attempt to sell a better stone. we were getting a designer setting and the stone is on the larger end of the scale for the city we leave in, so maybe he thought he could take advantage of that and convince us to spend more. fortunately the jeweler we work with at this particular location was not the guy who tried to pull this stunt and we would use the guy we like again. just went in on the wrong day i guess. hope it works out as well for you!
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| Posted: 10/13/2006 9:38:53 AM | |
| P: 10/13/2006 11:18:03 AM | |
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TanDogMom Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,919 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/8/2005 |
Thanks Tdiddy, your story makes me feel a lot better.
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| Posted: 10/13/2006 11:18:03 AM | |
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