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 can someone take a look at this idealscope?

P:  10/12/2006 1:54:41 PM  
vestax
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this is a 1.89 ct, H, si2 diamond.
I'm completly clueless, is this a good idealscope??
It's right in my price range.
any response is greatly appreciated.
tahnks.

 



Posted:  10/12/2006 1:54:41 PM

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P: 10/12/2006 2:06:12 PM
belle
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how do you feel about inclusions?  i'm not sure how those would look in person.  i don't mind some inclusions myself but you should know what you are getting.



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Posted:  10/12/2006 2:06:12 PM
P: 10/12/2006 3:37:49 PM
Wink
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It should be a bright and beautiful stone from the idealscope. 

Wink Jones
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Posted:  10/12/2006 3:37:49 PM
P: 10/12/2006 3:49:10 PM
kcoursolle
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It shows very little light leakage and could be very pretty.  Ditto with the inclusions, they may not be eye-clean.  Also, this is personal preference, but this stone has small arrows.  Some like them large, some small, and some medium. 

Posted:  10/12/2006 3:49:10 PM
P: 10/12/2006 4:00:38 PM
vestax
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Thank you so much for the responses.
here is the picture of the diamond at 10x mag.
it's an si2 so i know there are going to be some inclusions
and the dealer says that most of them should be coverd by the
prongs, do you have any thoughts on this??
thanks again for any information, it's really appreciated.
 

 

Posted:  10/12/2006 4:00:38 PM
P: 10/12/2006 6:32:06 PM
Eva17
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Some of the inclusions look pretty close to the edges.........

Posted:  10/12/2006 6:32:06 PM
P: 10/12/2006 6:43:24 PM
Wink
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Date: 10/12/2006 6:32:06 PM
Author: Eva17
Some of the inclusions look pretty close to the edges.........


And this is the prefered place for such inclusions.  Difficult to see with the unaided eye and progable.  These are not cleavages which could be dangerous near the edges.  (could not would, this like fluorescence is also often used as a scare tactic to kill someone else's sale than for real danger.)

Wink

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Posted:  10/12/2006 6:43:24 PM
P: 10/12/2006 7:01:02 PM
Eva17
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wink, are there any feathers at the edge?   and if so, are they problematic? can setting the stone put pressure on a feather?

Posted:  10/12/2006 7:01:02 PM
P: 10/13/2006 10:31:31 AM
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Date: 10/12/2006 7:01:02 PM
Author: Eva17
wink, are there any feathers at the edge? and if so, are they problematic? can setting the stone put pressure on a feather?


I do not see any, but you don't always see everything in a photo.

If there were a feather it would be unlikely to be problematic in a stone graded an SI2 by a competant gemologist. And if it were problematic, a discussion with the setter could avoid potential problems. Of course if the stone had a problematic feather in it, it would be a good one not to buy.

My objection is to the blanket statement that some of the inclusions look close to the edge. These are exactly the kind of inclusions to hope for, somthing very hard to see and easy to prong that give you the opportunity to buy a great looking diamond for much less money than if the inclusions were not there. Put those same inclusions in the middle of the stone and you increase the probablility that they are eye visible and detrimental to the appearance of the stone.

Wink

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Posted:  10/13/2006 10:31:31 AM
P: 10/13/2006 11:51:05 AM
JohnQuixote
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Date: 10/13/2006 10:31:31 AM
Author: Wink


Date: 10/12/2006 7:01:02 PM
Author: Eva17
wink, are there any feathers at the edge? and if so, are they problematic? can setting the stone put pressure on a feather?


I do not see any, but you don't always see everything in a photo.

If there were a feather it would be unlikely to be problematic in a stone graded an SI2 by a competant gemologist. And if it were problematic, a discussion with the setter could avoid potential problems. Of course if the stone had a problematic feather in it, it would be a good one not to buy.

My objection is to the blanket statement that some of the inclusions look close to the edge. These are exactly the kind of inclusions to hope for, somthing very hard to see and easy to prong that give you the opportunity to buy a great looking diamond for much less money than if the inclusions were not there. Put those same inclusions in the middle of the stone and you increase the probablility that they are eye visible and detrimental to the appearance of the stone.

Wink

Rough planning is undertaking very carefully.  Remember that a diamond undergoes enormous pressure and friction - enough to turn it white-hot - during the cutting process.

As Wink alludes, manufacturers have the option of sending a diamond to a softer lab or just dishing it with no paper if they feel something is amiss.  The GIA includes durability as part of their assessment.  Reputable sellers check these aspects too, as an added safeguard.

If a mounted diamond is hit hard enough to cause damage it will usually occur at the point of impact, regardless of where clarity characteristics are located.  This is why insurance is well-advised whether the diamond is I3 or FL.

John

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Posted:  10/13/2006 11:51:05 AM

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