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| P: 2/26/2003 1:56:14 PM | |
timbo Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 3/15/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
Hi all - Still in search of an EMERALD Diamond for my girl. I am confused (again)!!! This emrald is listed as Signature "Ideal" and they are saying it is the best cut..yet...when I view an Ideal cut from this site...this falls into a 2A, 2B cut??? Any thoughts?? As always appreciate anyones input. timbo Cut: Signature Ideal Carat weight: 1.51 Cut: Signature Emerald Color: I Clarity: VS1 Depth %: 67.9% Table %: 67% Symmetry: Very good Polish: Very good Girdle: Thin Culet: Small Fluorescence: Faint Measurements: 7.46x5.73x3.89 mm Length/width ratio: 1.30 |
| Posted: 2/26/2003 1:56:14 PM | |
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| P: 2/26/2003 2:15:24 PM | |
Giangi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,530 Last Post: 10/29/2006 Member Since: 1/23/2003 |
To find out if it's a class 2A or 2B, we must know crown height and pavilion depth... Are you able to get them?
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| Posted: 2/26/2003 2:15:24 PM | |
| P: 2/26/2003 2:26:40 PM | |
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timbo Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 3/15/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
thanks giangi - I will email them to get those %. This is what "they" say This ideal emerald-cut includes a crown height greater than 9% of the total diamond height, a culet, and more evenly distributed pavilion facets. A higher crown height with a smaller table creates larger crown facets that capture more light. The culet and the distribution of pavilion facets reflect more light, in an even display of brilliance. timbo
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| Posted: 2/26/2003 2:26:40 PM | |
| P: 2/26/2003 2:32:01 PM | |
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Giangi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,530 Last Post: 10/29/2006 Member Since: 1/23/2003 |
OK... Let us know these results...
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| Posted: 2/26/2003 2:32:01 PM | |
| P: 2/26/2003 4:10:28 PM | |
dimonbob Ideal Rock Total Posts: 660 Last Post: 10/30/2009 Member Since: 12/13/2000 |
Hello Timbo; You said, they said: "This ideal emerald-cut includes a crown height greater than 9% of the total diamond height, a culet, and more evenly distributed pavilion facets. A higher crown height with a smaller table creates larger crown facets that capture more light. The culet and the distribution of pavilion facets reflect more light, in an even display of brilliance." In my opinion, either you have misquoted them or they are giving you a song and dance. In other they don't know what they are talking about. Diamond percentages come from the diameter of any cut including emerald cuts. The diameter of the diamond in question is 5.73mm. The crown height should be, according to Dave Atlas, 12.3 to 14.4% of 5.73mm. If I take a middle number like 13.3% x 5.73mm I get 0.762mm. If I use 9% x the depth of 3.89mm that is 0.35mm. To get even close to the desired 0.762mm depth I would need to use over 19% of the total depth. He did say greater than but 19 is more than twice that of 9. Maybe I am nitpicking but something is not right. Most emerald cuts have a 9 to 10% crown height but most emerald cuts also have large black areas due to the very shallow crowns and deep pavilions. Just my opinion. dimonbob, GG |
| Posted: 2/26/2003 4:10:28 PM | |
| P: 2/27/2003 11:20:33 AM | |
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timbo Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 3/15/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
thanks Bob - That quote came right off of their website and I think it was a decent on line diamond company...Yeah - I guess I am getting frustrated in the sense that all these sites dont give you all the things you look for like Crown %, Pavilion Depth, etc....So..I guess you have to ask or once you find one you like bring it to someone right away to look at...thanks for your input. timbo
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| Posted: 2/27/2003 11:20:33 AM | |
| P: 2/27/2003 12:56:24 PM | |
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Giangi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,530 Last Post: 10/29/2006 Member Since: 1/23/2003 |
Yep! I didn't notice that!!! Maybe it's just a typo(or so I hope )...What did they say about crown and pavilion %?? Giangi _____________ |
| Posted: 2/27/2003 12:56:24 PM | |
| P: 2/27/2003 12:58:11 PM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,922 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
'Signature Ideal'...sounds like this is a Blue Nile stone. I have run some of their stones through the HCA and come up with 2 and 3 scores, so every stone is not exactly the cream of the crop. The Signature Ideal brand is just that, a brand...and it does not mean foolproof. The fact that by the #'s you say it falls more into a 2A/2B category does not make it an 'ideal' stone, BUT the 2A/2B rating is still excellent...it is more when you get into the 3 ratings that you may want to keep looking. So if the price is right and all the numbers work out once you get things figured out, it may be a good buy. Good luck...get more info as the others suggested. 
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| Posted: 2/27/2003 12:58:11 PM | |
| P: 2/27/2003 3:06:42 PM | |
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timbo Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 3/15/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
Thanks Mara - It was from Blue Nile....yeah bottom line here is I think am getting way too caught up in this "Ideal" cut thing cause I am reading so much about the importance of it..with that said it is is very important to me but a 2A/2B is probably as close as I will get and still be very satisfied!! thanks everyone has been and always is helpful! timbo
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| Posted: 2/27/2003 3:06:42 PM | |
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