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| P: 2/20/2003 6:18:40 PM | |
kbanton Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 2/21/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
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| Posted: 2/20/2003 6:18:40 PM | |
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| P: 2/20/2003 7:20:59 PM | |
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Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,893 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
Appraisals are opinions for the most part, but educated opinions. Do you know your independent appraiser's credentials? I assume you checked him out somewhat before using him. I would trust the independent appraiser's grading over the jewelers anytime, as the independent appraiser has no reason to falsify information, he knows you can take it elsewhere and get a 3rd opinion. Have you in fact done this? I would, definitely talk to someone else. If you would consider it..send the stone to Dave Atlas, Rich Sherwood or Bill Leiberman and have them appraise it..they all have very high reputations on this forum for telling it as it is. From what I have heard, appraisals in settings can often be mistaken...viewing the loose stone is the true way to tell. Just out of curiosity, why have you retained an attorney? ________________________________ |
| Posted: 2/20/2003 7:20:59 PM | |
| P: 2/20/2003 8:31:31 PM | |
PuddyKat Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 1/23/2005 Member Since: 11/4/2002 |
My husband and I recently had my diamond (2c asscher) appraised and it appraised much differently than the appraisal the jeweler gave us (diamond is not certified). He appraised the stone as H/I in color, our appraisal says J/K, most likely K (appraised in setting). Our independent appraiser also told us his grading can not be a split grading since his appraisal was of a loose stone. HI there, I'm a bit confused. You said the appraiser appraised it H/I and your appraisal says its J/K. Isn't that a good thing? Wouldn't you have paid for J/K color but in fact got a slightly lighter H/I diamond? Sorry , just got off work and my brain's burned out. Please clarify.
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| Posted: 2/20/2003 8:31:31 PM | |
| P: 2/21/2003 12:53:01 AM | |
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Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,874 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002 |
Usually what I find has occurred in these type of situations is that the jeweler is not a gemologist, and attempted to do his own grading, or relied on the "in-house" grading given by his supplier (both dumb moves, usually done trying to save a buck). Also, 99 times out of 100 the jeweler has charged a fair price for what the stone really is, while unintentionally overstated the grading. Fraud is too strong a word for that scenario. How did the stone appraise out value wise? Did it appraise for what you paid for it, or more? Don't crucify the guy if he gave you a good deal. Give him a chance to pacify you in some manner. Perhaps a credit for other merchandise, or a refund, or a trade-in, etc. Rich, Independent GG Appraiser |
| Posted: 2/21/2003 12:53:01 AM | |
| P: 2/21/2003 9:55:39 AM | |
kbanton Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 2/21/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
Puddykat, thanks for reply. Basically, we were sold a diamond we were told was H in color and it appraised as J. After getting a band that was matched to what we believed was the true color, the stone appeared very yellow, which first raised the question. The jeweler's appraisal appears to misrepresent the sold he sold us. Regardless of price, we are angry we did not buy the stone we thought we were.
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| Posted: 2/21/2003 9:55:39 AM | |
| P: 2/21/2003 10:13:59 AM | |
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Richard Sherwood Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,874 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/25/2002 |
----------- Regardless of price, we are angry we did not buy the stone we thought we were. ----------- Ahh, so the stone did appraise out for more... I can understand your anger. If you're convinced it was intentional, nail the guy to the wall. But first give serious consideration to the possibility that it might have been an unintentional blunder. There's a universal law that as you judge others, so shall you be judged. The measure of harshness you use, you will yourself experience one day. Give the guy a chance. Shelve the attorney for now. He'll just exacerbate the situation and suck as much money out of it that he can. Rich, Independent GG Appraiser |
| Posted: 2/21/2003 10:13:59 AM | |
| P: 2/21/2003 10:26:44 AM | |
kbanton Rough Rock Total Posts: 3 Last Post: 2/21/2003 Member Since: 2/20/2003 |
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| Posted: 2/21/2003 10:26:44 AM | |
| P: 2/21/2003 10:56:24 AM | |
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aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002 |
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| Posted: 2/21/2003 10:56:24 AM | |
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