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| P: 8/4/2006 12:46:21 PM | |
bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
Michael B claims to have F VS1 diamonds in their micropave solitaires on encrusted on the band. My questions is if I wanted to get a bigger center diamond by sparing a little on the color and clarity (going from a D to G or H, and going from IF to S1) would it look bad since the diamonds on the band are better color and clarity than the center diamond. Question 2: What''s the minimum I can get away with on a RB as far as color and clarity (H S1?), and in your opionion what size ring would look bigger than average on a size 7 finger (I''m looking at about a 1.5 ct weight (about 7.5 mm wide...seems pretty big to me, but want your expert opionions:)) thanks... |
| Posted: 8/4/2006 12:46:21 PM | |
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| P: 8/4/2006 12:45:07 PM | |
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
It will be fine to go to an H diamond with those settings. I would go for a larger stone for a size 7 finger if you can. SI1 will save you a lot of money. If she isn't into the details, it won't matter at all as long as it is eye clean. But if she examines things with a microscope (ie. picky like me!), then I wouldn't go below VS2. I think anywhere between 1.5 and 2 carats would be fine. How much is your budget for the diamond alone?
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 12:45:07 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 12:48:08 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
DS, budget for center diamond around 13k.
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 12:48:08 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:01:18 PM | |
bling*diva* Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,026 Last Post: 7/17/2008 Member Since: 6/17/2005 |
~~What shape diamond are you looking for? I found a great one at Whiteflash (2.03ct. g/SI2). Here's the link... 2.03 carat G/SI2 *~~All I see are diamonds...~~* |
| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:01:18 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:18:10 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Date: 8/4/2006 1:01:18 PM Author: bling*diva* ~~What shape diamond are you looking for? I found a great one at Whiteflash (2.03ct. g/SI2). Here's the link... 2.03 carat G/SI2 Bling Diva, unfortunately that is not a WF stone, it is just on their virtual database. You have to do the search under A Cut Above or Expert Selection only. That diamond is not ideal cut either.
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:18:10 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:27:14 PM | |
Scintillating Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 7/24/2009 Member Since: 8/10/2005 |
This stone looks like a good bet. 1.60 G SI1 at GOG - Link - $12,968.64 Scintillating... But, yea... what shape are you looking for?
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:27:14 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:27:31 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
DS, I take it you would definitely not buy a diamond if it's not ideal cut, symmetry, and polish...seems like from reading a lot on this site that those are the most impt. characteristics as far as they are what really makes the diamond shine? Seems like GOG's diamonds are all really good as far as quality, that is you get a really nice diamond no matter the color or clarity? As well as NiceIce?
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:27:31 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:30:33 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Here are some possibilities (lots of G and I and not too many H in that size right now):
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:30:33 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:35:48 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Date: 8/4/2006 1:27:31 PM Author: bigE DS, I take it you would definitely not buy a diamond if it's not ideal cut, symmetry, and polish...seems like from reading a lot on this site that those are the most impt. characteristics as far as they are what really makes the diamond shine? Seems like GOG's diamonds are all really good as far as quality, that is you get a really nice diamond no matter the color or clarity? As well as NiceIce? Yes, bigE, the cut quality has more to do with how the diamond looks than anything else, assuming you aren't talking very poor color or clarity, of course. It just helps to narrow this down by looking only at ideal cut diamonds! I did choose my diamond from Good Old Gold, and I can't say enough about how much I like them! But I'd also buy from WF, Winfield's, probably Nice Ice (haven't talked with him since he didn't have a diamond with my specs). Right now, GOG just happens to have a lot of possibilities in your size and price range! Just so you know, my personal preference is G-H and no lower than VS2, however, I did show you a few SI1's that look promising if they are totally eye clean!
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:35:48 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:40:45 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
Thanks for the help DS...I was originally going to go with a square, but after looking at the RB on a MB setting, it sort of looks square off, and for the weight of the diamond you can't beat the dimensions (length and width) of a RB IMHO (not to mention the shimmer)!
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:40:45 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 1:40:57 PM | |
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Scintillating Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 7/24/2009 Member Since: 8/10/2005 |
Date: 8/4/2006 1:27:31 PM Author: bigE DS, I take it you would definitely not buy a diamond if it's not ideal cut, symmetry, and polish...seems like from reading a lot on this site that those are the most impt. characteristics as far as they are what really makes the diamond shine? Yes, cut is paramount! We all have other specs we take into consideration as well, color, clarity, carat weight. Seems like GOG's diamonds are all really good as far as quality, that is you get a really nice diamond no matter the color or clarity? As well as NiceIce? Both these vendors work hard to prescreen their stones. I don't think either vendor will sell any dogs - but *all* their stones wouldn't suit all consumers. You need to decide for yourself were your priorities lie in terms of carat weight, color, clarity, etc. Have you gone out to a Brick and Mortar to view stones? Doing this may help you get some ideas about where your personal specification will be in terms of the Cs. Scintillating...
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 1:40:57 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 2:38:12 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
I did Scincillating, that is, look at some B and M stones... When we COMPARED the E to the H solitaire we could definitely tell the difference. However, I forgot to check out the cut quality but it was a fine jeweler so I'm thinking maybe it was pretty good cut. Regardless, I can tell the difference, but again that is with two diamonds side by side which they seldom will be side by side to another diamond when my fiance has it on. On another note though I was a little worried b/c the MB setting I like has the micropave band as I mentioned (above) with F VS1 stones, so I don't want the band to sparkle more than the solitaire. Seems like from what I've read a well (excellent or ideal) cut diamond for the soliataire in even an G, H or possibly I will sparkle just was well as long as the clarity is above S1 and the polish, symmetry and cut are all excellent to ideal...sound right? I love the Michael B solitaire though with the micropave band and RB middle diamond. Scincillating!!
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 2:38:12 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 2:58:24 PM | |
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Scintillating Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 7/24/2009 Member Since: 8/10/2005 |
Did she express an opinion on color? *Most* people won't see through the brillance and fire of a well cut diamond to see body color. How did she respond to the H? Could she see color in the H when it was by itself? Did she like the warmth? or did it bug her? Her opinion will help direct you which way to go - color or size really. (Clarity = if you can't see it, it isn't there (at least to me.)) I don't think you'll have a problem with color in the Michael B setting if you stay in the F/G range, probably even H. But, I personally think G is a good "safe" spot for most people. I love Michael B. settings - for years I had my heart set on the crown lace. Scintillating...
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 2:58:24 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 3:02:10 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
She definitely, like me, didn't like the H when we COMPARED it to the other (F) diamond, but again, how often are you going to be comparing diamonds side by side? Also, it seems like many on here buy H, G diamonds and comment on how they can't tell the difference. Maybe that's individually specific though. I'd love a D, E, or F diamond but if I want a bigger diamond 1.5 ct, I probably couldn't afford it in that color range:)
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 3:02:10 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 3:07:43 PM | |
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Scintillating Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 7/24/2009 Member Since: 8/10/2005 |
I'm not seeing much when I pscope it, but I think you could find a nice 1.50 FVS2/SI1 for $13,000. You might ask GOG or WF to pull some stones for you. Scintillating...
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 3:07:43 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 5:00:40 PM | |
Oleander Cut Rock Total Posts: 159 Last Post: 10/18/2006 Member Since: 6/17/2006 |
To comment on diamond color: I have an "H" and it looks very white when alone, which is 99.9% of the time, if not 100%. Most women are not going to do a side-by-side comparison with each other, at least not close enough to see if one is a better color than the other. So you are right, D right next to H might show a difference, but out in the real world of wearing jewelry, you most likely won't be able to tell. That said, some people really like the idea and look of a colorless diamond, so if that's you, then that's what you should get. Spend your dollars on the diamond characteristics that make you tick. But my personal opinion is to not be afraid of the H. 
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 5:00:40 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 5:06:05 PM | |
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bigE Cut Rock Total Posts: 103 Last Post: 12/12/2006 Member Since: 7/27/2006 |
Oleander, what if the center diamond is next to F/VS1 micropave band like on the Michael B micropave soliatire that I'm looking at. Would these side diamonds be enough to make the ring look weird or not sparkle?
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 5:06:05 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 5:14:28 PM | |
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Oleander Cut Rock Total Posts: 159 Last Post: 10/18/2006 Member Since: 6/17/2006 |
I don't have any rings like that and really can't say for sure--BUT, I would venture to say an H center stone would fare wonderfully next to F smaller stones. Perhaps someone here will chime in with input.
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 5:14:28 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 5:31:17 PM | |
mrssalvo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 16,859 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/3/2005 |
we've got J stone owners that have their large stones in setting with higher melee. with pave stones they are sooooo tiny, you're not going to see color, just sparkle. You'd be safe putting h, i, probably even ideal cut J stones in that setting without a noticable difference IMO.
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 5:31:17 PM | |
| P: 8/4/2006 8:41:00 PM | |
Tacori E-ring Ideal Rock Total Posts: 16,101 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/15/2005 |
I have an "I" center stone with F/G melee and I cannot tell a difference at all. Mrssalvo is right, the stones are so small, its not an issue.
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| Posted: 8/4/2006 8:41:00 PM | |
| P: 8/5/2006 12:43:20 AM | |
Goldenrain Rough Rock Total Posts: 33 Last Post: 9/6/2006 Member Since: 4/20/2006 |
I'd say go for a G or higher, but if you must go H, then choose something as close as possible to ideal cut, which will maximize light return, thereby making the diamond look whiter... Oh, if you wanna see the Michael B e-ring I proposed to my girl with, see here: http://www.xanga.com/goldenrain :)
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| Posted: 8/5/2006 12:43:20 AM | |
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