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P: 8/3/2006 5:19:20 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	Price: $2,974.00 Report: AGS Shape: Round Ideal Cut Carat: 0.742 Color: F Clarity: SI1 Depth: 61.2 Table: 56 Crown Angle: 34.6 Crown %: 15.1 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Pavilion %: 42.8 Girdle: medium to slight thick Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: Negligible Measurements: 5.81-5.84X3.56 Price:$2,705.00 Report: AGS Shape: Round Ideal Cut Carat: 0.748 Color: F Clarity: SI1 Depth: 61.9 Table: 54.9 Crown Angle: 34.7 !!!EDITED USED TO SAY 61.7!!!!!! Crown %: 54.7 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Pavilion %: 43 Girdle: Thin to Slightly Thick Faceted Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: Negligible Measurements: 5.82-5.84X3.61 Price: $2499.00 Report: AGS Shape: Round Ideal Cut Carat: 0.722 Color: H Clarity: VS2 Depth: 61.6 Table: 56 Crown Angle: 34.8 Crown %: 15.5 Pavilion Angle: 40.6 Pavilion %: 42.8 Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: Negligible Measurements: 5.75-5.77X3.54 Price: $2110.00 Report: AGS Shape: Round Ideal Cut Carat: 0.712 Color: G Clarity: SI2 Depth: 60.7 Table: 56.6 Crown Angle: 34.8 Crown %: 15.2 Pavilion Angle: 40.9 Pavilion %: 43.1 Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: Negligible Measurements: 5.78-5.81X3.52 Your thoughts?
Posted: 8/3/2006 5:19:20 PM

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P: 8/3/2006 6:17:55 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I like 1 and 3 the best. And 3 is a good amount less. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 8/3/2006 6:17:55 PM

P: 8/3/2006 7:38:43 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	1.) what draws you to 1 and 3? 2.) Your not impressed by the higher color ratings of the other 2?
Posted: 8/3/2006 7:38:43 PM

P: 8/3/2006 7:56:45 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Keep in mind, this is all just my personal preference and the way I scan a diamond. I'll answer your second question first. No, color doesnt sway me, it's the last thing I look at. My comfort level goes to H, so all of these would be fine with me as far as color. Of course higher color is nice, but not necessary, for me. But, color is a very personal thing. Are you comfortable with any of these colors? If not, strike it. Now, when I look at a diamond, this is the order I look at it in. 1. Depth. If it's too deep for me, no point going on. 2. CA and PA's. 3. Clarity 4. Color So, to answer your first question, I just like everything about 1 and 3 better. But we're splitting hairs here, moreless. This is what 1 gets on the HCA. Light Return Excellent Fire Excellent Scintillation Excellent Spread or diameter for weight Very Good Total Visual Performance 1 - Excellent within TIC range And 3 Light Return Excellent Fire Excellent Scintillation Excellent Spread or diameter for weight Very Good Total Visual Performance 0.8 - Excellent within TIC range Both are great. For me, 2 is a tad deep, but just for ME. And 4, I don't like the angles. (scores a 1.7) Hope this helps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 8/3/2006 7:56:45 PM

P: 8/3/2006 8:07:48 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Crown Angle: 61.9? typo? I like the numbers on 4 and if its eyeclean its bling for the buck is pretty high. Do you have an IS image for it? ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 8/3/2006 8:07:48 PM

P: 8/3/2006 8:10:42 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	And yeah, I forgot that CA strm. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 8/3/2006 8:10:42 PM

P: 8/3/2006 8:41:16 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	Date: 8/3/2006 8:07:48 PM Author: strmrdr Crown Angle: 61.9? typo? I like the numbers on 4 and if its eyeclean its bling for the buck is pretty high. Do you have an IS image for it? From what I have been told...there is a feather on the table(I am going tomorrow to compare 3 and 4), this feather is visible at 3 to 4 inches and I am told is visble at 10 inches IF you are looking for it. So Tomorrow I am going to decide if it truely is visible. The color on #3 scares me. I have never seen an H in person(to clarify...never in person while really shopping for a diamond) so I don't know what to expect. I have been told that I will probably not be able to tell the difference between an H and a G and most likey wouldnt be able to tell the difference between an H and an F. If this is the case, I might consider the H more. Here are the images of #3 As far as the cut advisor goes...is .8 better then 1?
Posted: 8/3/2006 8:41:16 PM

P: 8/3/2006 8:47:25 PM
Sundial Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,590 Last Post: 7/14/2009 Member Since: 3/14/2005	I like number 4, but I am concerned about that inclusion. Since you are going to see it though you will be able to see for yourself. I wouldn't worry about H color. My diamond stud earrings are H color, the center stone in my three stone ring is F color, and the two sidestones are G color and to me they all look exactly the same. I also wouldn't be concerned about a difference between .8 and 1.0 scores on the HCA. Just go take a look and let your eyes be the judge.
Posted: 8/3/2006 8:47:25 PM

P: 8/3/2006 8:57:53 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	Date: 8/3/2006 8:47:25 PM Author: Sundial I like number 4, but I am concerned about that inclusion. Since you are going to see it though you will be able to see for yourself. I wouldn't worry about H color. My diamond stud earrings are H color, the center stone in my three stone ring is F color, and the two sidestones are G color and to me they all look exactly the same. I also wouldn't be concerned about a difference between .8 and 1.0 scores on the HCA. Just go take a look and let your eyes be the judge. Well thats good to hear...it seems like 4 is getting quite a nod :) So I will definetly have a look at it closely... Do you guys think I should have a look at this one in person 2? Price: $2,479.00 Report: GIA Shape: Round Carat: 0.74 Color: F Clarity: SI2 Depth: 61.4 Table: 59 Crown Angle: 35.9 Crown %: 15.3 Pavilion Angle: 40.8 Pavilion %: 42.7 Girdle: MEDIUM FACETED Polish: Very Good Symmetry: Very Good Culet: None Fluorescence: None Measurements: 5.80-5.82X3.57 It seems preaty dang eye clear for an SI2...am I missing something?
Posted: 8/3/2006 8:57:53 PM

P: 8/3/2006 9:04:02 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	I see some discoloration in the last stone pictures. Something funny going on in the middle. Shows up on the idealscope, too. Just FYI, I'm looking at one of these stones, too! People who know me will know which one! (But keep it to yourselves, please, until treepop and I make decisions!) ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 8/3/2006 9:04:02 PM

P: 8/3/2006 9:08:54 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	Date: 8/3/2006 9:04:02 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 I see some discoloration in the last stone pictures. Something funny going on in the middle. Shows up on the idealscope, too. Just FYI, I'm looking at one of these stones, too! People who know me will know which one! (But keep it to yourselves, please, until treepop and I make decisions!) In reference to the funky thing going on in the middle..are you refering to the si2F I just posted? Or one of my original 4?
Posted: 8/3/2006 9:08:54 PM

P: 8/3/2006 9:13:17 PM
treepop Rough Rock Total Posts: 45 Last Post: 8/27/2006 Member Since: 7/12/2006	O! and before I forget...the #2 diamonds PA is 34.7
Posted: 8/3/2006 9:13:17 PM

P: 8/3/2006 9:28:33 PM
^ Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 8/15/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2006	I think DS is referring to the diamond you just posted. It looks a little weird, but I think it's just reflections. If you look closely, the bottoms of the arrowshafts are actually pointed, it's just they have a black relfection that makes them look crooked. That combined with a focal problem, I think. Tough to photograph stones, they're so small. I wouldn't dismiss nor accept the stone on the photo alone. Not when WF offers a return policy. My 2 cents. Good luck, ^
Posted: 8/3/2006 9:28:33 PM

P: 8/3/2006 9:28:54 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 8/3/2006 9:08:54 PM Author: treepop Date: 8/3/2006 9:04:02 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 I see some discoloration in the last stone pictures. Something funny going on in the middle. Shows up on the idealscope, too. Just FYI, I'm looking at one of these stones, too! People who know me will know which one! (But keep it to yourselves, please, until treepop and I make decisions!) In reference to the funky thing going on in the middle..are you refering to the si2F I just posted? Or one of my original 4? The F SI2. I'd eliminate that one for sure. There is some brown discoloration between the arrows and you can see it on the IdealScope picture as well. (I meant I was looking at one of the first 4). ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 8/3/2006 9:28:54 PM

P: 8/4/2006 9:52:15 AM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Date: 8/3/2006 8:57:53 PM Author: treepop Date: 8/3/2006 8:47:25 PM Author: Sundial I like number 4, but I am concerned about that inclusion. Since you are going to see it though you will be able to see for yourself. I wouldn't worry about H color. My diamond stud earrings are H color, the center stone in my three stone ring is F color, and the two sidestones are G color and to me they all look exactly the same. I also wouldn't be concerned about a difference between .8 and 1.0 scores on the HCA. Just go take a look and let your eyes be the judge. Well thats good to hear...it seems like 4 is getting quite a nod :) So I will definetly have a look at it closely... Do you guys think I should have a look at this one in person 2? Price: $2,479.00 Report: GIA Shape: Round Carat: 0.74 Color: F Clarity: SI2 Depth: 61.4 Table: 59 Crown Angle: 35.9 Crown %: 15.3 Pavilion Angle: 40.8 Pavilion %: 42.7 Girdle: MEDIUM FACETED Polish: Very Good Symmetry: Very Good Culet: None Fluorescence: None Measurements: 5.80-5.82X3.57 It seems preaty dang eye clear for an SI2...am I missing something? too much leakage on this one the other is a better cut. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 8/4/2006 9:52:15 AM

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