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 Please tell me what you think of these 2 RB's!

P:  7/13/2006 3:59:16 PM  
robbie3982
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My ff and I are going ring shopping with the intention of buying on Saturday and I got a little antsy and decided to take a look at some jewelry stores around here (we're looking at Jared's in Pittsburgh, but we live in OH). 

I was really impressed with the knowledge that the man who was helping me had.  It was like talking to someone on pricescope!  He was telling me about the angles  and depth and table percentages of diamonds.  No one at any store I've ever been in has ever brough this up!

Well, I found this one diamond that I really really love.  The guy even copied the GIA cert for me to take home.  Can you please tell me if you think this is a good diamond?  It seems like the cut is right on the edge of ideal to me.

RB
6.21-6.26x3.88mm
.93 ct
depth... 62.2%
table... 53%
girdle... thin to medium
culet... none
polish...excellent
symmetry...good
clarity...SI2 (i could only see the inclusions w/ magnification)
color...K (I couldn't believe it was a K!  I was shocked!  It looked so white to me!  Guess I'm not color sensitive)
flourescence...faint (perhaps this made it look whiter)
comments...crown angles are greater than 35 degrees)

He also showed me this AGS Ideal 0 for the same price:

RB
5.94-5.97x3.61mm
0.764 ct
table...57%
depth...60.6%
polish...ags ideal
symmetry...ags ideal
proportions...ags ideal
color...H
clarity...si2 (i also couldn't see these inclusions with my naked eye)
flourescence...inert
culet...very small

I couldn't see much difference in the colors or the sparkliness.  What do you guys think?  Are these good stones?  I did a price comparison on PS and it seems like this b&m's price is right.  He said i could have either stone in a plain wg 4-prong setting for $2295+tax.  I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say about these
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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!
Posted:  7/13/2006 3:59:16 PM

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P: 7/13/2006 4:05:21 PM
diamondseeker2006
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Robbie,

I'd much rather have the second one, if it was me. Good luck and let us know what you guys decide!

ETA: Jewelry store lighting is very deceiving, on purpose. I know I'd be happier in most lighting situations with an H, and I also think #2 sounds like a better cut stone.




~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~

Posted:  7/13/2006 4:05:21 PM
P: 7/13/2006 4:09:02 PM
robbie3982
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Thanks for the input diamond seeker!  The man at the store did say that we have 90 days to bring it back for any reason (even if I just see something that I like better somewhere else), so I'm kind of leaning towards the K.  If it really bothered me I could always bring it back right?

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 4:09:02 PM
P: 7/13/2006 4:11:12 PM
diamondseeker2006
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Sure, a good return policy is very valuable!




~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~

Posted:  7/13/2006 4:11:12 PM
P: 7/13/2006 4:11:40 PM
BlackIce
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For the same price and less than .17 ct difference.  Number 2 is a hands-down winner.  

Plus number 1 will face up smaller because of the depth difference.

Number 2 

Posted:  7/13/2006 4:11:40 PM
P: 7/13/2006 4:17:21 PM
FacetFire
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Honestly, if you were able to look at them in a lot of different lighting situations, and you preferred the K...I'd go with that. It is bigger, and the cut isn't that far off. For my money, if my eyes can't tell the difference in the cut, but can tell the difference in size, I'd go with the bigger one.

Posted:  7/13/2006 4:17:21 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:02:00 PM
robbie3982
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Interesting...I just used the cut analysis tool and the .764 came back with this:

Light Return Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 3.7 - Very Good - Worth buying if the price is right

and the .93 with this:

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1 - Excellent
within FIC  range

I WANT THE K!  Now all I have to do is convince the ff to go here instead of Jared's.

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:02:00 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:05:51 PM
JulieN
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what are the C/P angles of the K?

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:05:51 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:11:36 PM
diamondseeker2006
diamondseeker2006

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Can you please also list the crown and pavilion angles for the .76? It does not make sense for an AGS0 to score 3.7 on the HCA.




~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:11:36 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:12:26 PM
robbie3982
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woops, i don't have those.  I left the pavillion angle the same as the other stone and put in crown angles greater than 35 since it said that's what it has in the comments.  probably not the most accurate way to determine which is better...oopsies.

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:12:26 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:14:27 PM
JulieN
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since you hav a copy of the GIA cert, you might be able to look up the angles if it was graded recently.  www.gia.edu/reportcheck

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:14:27 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:15:07 PM
robbie3982
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the AGS0 angles are:

crown: 34.1
pav: 41.3

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:15:07 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:23:06 PM
JulieN
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Is it AGS light performance based report?

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:23:06 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:27:35 PM
robbie3982
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I don't think so, it just says diamond quality document and has the AGS symbol on it.  The GIA link doesn't have the c/p angles either.  Is that weird that it's not on the report?

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:27:35 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:29:50 PM
JulieN
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Pictures of new vs old AGS reports here: http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=45611

If you want the K, have a Sarin run.  Maybe the GIA report is just the dossier?

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:29:50 PM
P: 7/13/2006 5:37:15 PM
robbie3982
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I'm pretty sure it's the old system.

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 5:37:15 PM
P: 7/13/2006 6:49:56 PM
robbie3982
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Yay!  I just convinced the FF when he got home from work to go to THIS store with me instead of Jared's!  We'll get a much better deal now

When I told him about the stone he said ".93 carats huh?  Did you look at anything smaller?"  Haha.  I told him that the smaller one I looked at was the same price and he seems to be warming up to the .93!

We're going to go look at the store tomorrow after he's done with work!  yay!  so excited!

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/13/2006 6:49:56 PM
P: 7/16/2006 10:40:29 PM
robbie3982
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We ended up getting the k!!!  I absolutely love it !  We put a down payment on it and my ff won't tell me if he plans on using their layaway plan or getting the 0% interest credit card.  I'm so excited!  I can't wait to have it on my finger!

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Baby Desmond Jacob arrived on 6/28. So in love with my little man!

Posted:  7/16/2006 10:40:29 PM

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