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Looking for an Asscher |
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| P: 6/1/2006 12:31:21 PM | |
swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Hi folks, I have been lurking around PS for a while, read a lot about Asschers and am ready to buy from an internet vendor. However, I am having trouble finding anything. I found 5 stones I'd like the vendor (PS recommended) to call in but 4 out of 5 are not available although the info about these stones still shows up on internet sites. What is everyone's experience with stones being listed for days or weeks after they are not available any more? I am looking for a 1.25-1.5 ct, G-I color, VS1-SI1. I am picky about the cut and proportions and plug in table and depth percentages wherever possible. Only a few show up and they seem to be unavailable. I want to get photos to look at as well. I guess this process can take a while. I'm in no hurry but am spending a lot of time on the internet hunting around. I also tried local jewelers but they don't carry many Asschers and all seem to tell you the one they do have is the best out there. Any suggestions? Alberta |
| Posted: 6/1/2006 12:31:21 PM | |
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| P: 6/2/2006 4:06:59 AM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Well, today I found out the the only stone I had asked to be called in last week is now spoken for. So how does one go about finding a stone when the internet lists continue to post stones that have been bought? And how often do they get a new batch? I have done so much research and read almost every posting about Asschers, but now can't find many at the size I am looking for. Alberta
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 4:06:59 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 4:13:42 AM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,148 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
The PS database is updated twice a week. Pick a vendor and tell them what you're want, so they can do the work for you.
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 4:13:42 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 4:31:48 AM | |
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Welcome to PS Storm who posts here is extremely knowledgeable about Asschers so when he sees your thread he will be able to help you too. He has helped many folk here find some outrageously beautiful Asschers so get his input and advice if you can. He should be here later and see this thread. 
 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 6/2/2006 4:31:48 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 4:37:02 AM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Hi. I have picked a vendor and am working with them through phone calls and emails. It is a PS vendor that gets a lot of kudos here. But everytime we find something it is unavailable. And my vendor held off for a week after I said "bring it in" so now that one is gone. Is this common? Maybe I am thinking this shouldn't take as long as it really does. Alberta
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 4:37:02 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 4:40:23 AM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
And yes, I am hoping to have something to post so Storm can check it out. I have read many of his posts and know how knowledgable he is on Asschers. I just need to actually get a hold of some.
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 4:40:23 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 5:31:03 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
From what I understand great Asschers are highly desirable and in short supply right now so this might take a little patience to find the one, but you are several steps ahead of the game anyway with being here and contacting the vendors who know what you are looking for. You will find your Asscher!
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 6/2/2006 5:31:03 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 10:07:12 AM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Should I have more than one vendor look for me? Do they all have the same sources or do they work with different diamond suppliers?
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 10:07:12 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 10:09:52 AM | |
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
Date: 6/2/2006 10:07:12 AM some share the same sources and some also have their own suppliers. it could be beneficial to open up your options.
Author: swingirl Should I have more than one vendor look for me? Do they all have the same sources or do they work with different diamond suppliers?
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 10:09:52 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 10:32:50 AM | |
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Date: 6/2/2006 10:07:12 AM Author: swingirl Should I have more than one vendor look for me? Do they all have the same sources or do they work with different diamond suppliers? With asschers not having as many suppliers as rounds they would often be chasing the same stones which can lead to hassles. Best bet is be patient and work with one vendor but carefully chose the vendor. You need a vendor that has enough of a relationship that they can call the cutter and see what is actualy available and get on the waiting list if what you want isnt available. In some combos they are sold before they hit the lists which is what your running into. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 6/2/2006 10:32:50 AM | |
| P: 6/2/2006 12:40:20 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Well, that's good to know, especially the part about being sold before it hits the lists! I am working with WF and have given them real specific criteria (based on everything I've learned on PS). Thanks for everyone's input. I will stick with one vendor for now but keep my eyes open. I don't want any conflict with everyone chasing the same stone. I guess I will just need to be patient until the inventory improves. But it's not easy looking at all the beautiful stones and settings on PS!!
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| Posted: 6/2/2006 12:40:20 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:30:04 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Hi fellow Asscher lovers! I found a stone. I have one today and possibly 2 more tomorrow. Please give me your opinions. measurements: 6.12 x 6.11 x 4.11 depth: 67.3% table: 60% girdle: thick culet: none polish: excellent sym: excellent VVS1 H fluor: none 
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:30:04 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:32:00 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
And here is the Sarin report which I don't know how to evaluate but maybe someone else does.
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:32:00 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:33:34 PM | |
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strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
one word: Yummy! ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:33:34 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:36:37 PM | |
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,918 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Another word: Gorgeous!!!! 
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:36:37 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:41:39 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
So you think it's a good one? It's so hard to tell without seeing it in person but I like all the measurements and the center pattern, which, according to everyone one here with asscher experiance, is the real deal breaker. The other 2 I have called in are larger and, of course, more expensive. So I am excited to be able to compare them. 
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:41:39 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 6:48:25 PM | |
decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,625 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005 |
MAN-A-LIVE ... that's a BEEEEUUUUUTTTTTIIIIeeeeeeeee. Deeply cut corners, great light dispersion, neat&even steps .. EX/EX??? Can you say: RARE!!! Not to mention .... As a GIA "H" VVS1 Asscher gal myself ... I think its a "sweet spot". People will poo-poo the clarity tax of being one step away from IF ... but, when I looked at that clear baby through the loop - breathtaking. It's a super open cut to begin with, not many places to hide inclusions! WOW I it.
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 6:48:25 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 8:12:44 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Is 0.5 mm a noticable difference for an asscher? I am going to be looking at a couple stones. This first one is 6.12 x 6.11. The other is 6.56 x 6.54. It seems like a big difference when I look at the numbers. But I just got out a steal ruler that shows millimeters and 6 mm and 6.5mm is visually pretty darn close. Once in a setting, I wonder how much larger the larger one will look. Can anyone tell me whether this amount of size difference is noticable when a stone is set?
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 8:12:44 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 8:17:00 PM | |
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strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Date: 6/6/2006 8:12:44 PM Author: swingirl Is 0.5 mm a noticable difference for an asscher? I am going to be looking at a couple stones. This first one is 6.12 x 6.11. The other is 6.56 x 6.54. It seems like a big difference when I look at the numbers. But I just got out a steal ruler that shows millimeters and 6 mm and 6.5mm is visually pretty darn close. Once in a setting, I wonder how much larger the larger one will look. Can anyone tell me whether this amount of size difference is noticable when a stone is set? .5mm in a 6mm range stone is visible. You have pictures coming of the other? Go for the best cut one it will make the bigger differnce. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 6/6/2006 8:17:00 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 8:17:39 PM | |
blueroses Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,219 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2004 |
Go ahead and check out the other one, but here's my response to the one above: "Oooooh, MOMMMY!!!!!" It's, to quote the doctor (the doctor of storms!!): KICKIN'!!!
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 8:17:39 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 8:20:10 PM | |
FireGoddess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,145 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 1/25/2005 |
My Gosh - just looking at the picture you posted I thought - this is one asscher where if Strm says it's bad I have got to know why - because it looks AMAZING to me. Just perfection. Holy moly.
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 8:20:10 PM | |
| P: 6/6/2006 8:55:51 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Wow, I am pleased with all the positive feedback. Thanks to all especially Storm. I am glad I passed on that first one you commented on. I get 2 more (hopefully) tomorrow and will post the pictures and specs. Of course, being individual pictures I can't compare them as if I had them in person and could line them up. I don't know if the photos are always taken at the same distance, probably not. But, geez, tenths of millimeters are pretty small. I learned, by doing my research, to look more closely at the stone's dimensions than the carat size because my first stone was very deep and I feel I got cheated out of the visual size. I didn't know no better! But now I do!
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| Posted: 6/6/2006 8:55:51 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:26:09 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Hi. Today I got 2 more stones. I need opinions! 1.57 ct color: I VSI table 64% depth 66.7% 6.54 x 6.52 x 4.35 polish: VG symmetry: VG girdle: Med-STHK 
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:26:09 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:28:57 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
I don't think the tweazer photos are very good.
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:28:57 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:31:23 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Sarin for 1.57 I asscher
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:31:23 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:33:01 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
I don't know what happened.
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:33:01 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:34:28 PM | |
Gypsy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,306 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 8/9/2005 |
I like the H better than this one the steps looked brighter to me... I think they are two different styles bright drop for the I and a different (nicer, IMO) style in the H. Plus I don't like I's in asschers. That H was FABULOUS!!!!
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:34:28 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:34:55 PM | |
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strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
the 1.57 isnt in the same class as the other one. Its not a dog but its not close to being as good as the other one. I like the first one much better. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:34:55 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:35:56 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Now for the third stone. 1.63 ct J VSI table 63% depth 68.3% 6.56 x 6.45 x 4.40 polish E Symmetry VG girdle MED 
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:35:56 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:36:51 PM | |
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swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,287 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006 |
Sarin for 1.63 J asscher
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:36:51 PM | |
| P: 6/7/2006 4:40:46 PM | |
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Gypsy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,306 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 8/9/2005 |
Narrower windmills... I don't like this one as much either. I'd pick the H.
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| Posted: 6/7/2006 4:40:46 PM | |
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