Poll: Tiffany 6-prong Knife edge vs. Vatche Royal Crown

P: 6/1/2006 12:07:51 PM

oceanbeach

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I know it's all depend on each person's preference, but I thought it would be interesting to see which one is more popular in general. What's your preference?!

Tiffany Ring Pic:
http://www.tiffany.com/expertise/diamond/rings/engagement_tiffany.asp?

Vatche Ring Pic:
http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=7483&forumID=8&catID=&search=1&searchstring=

p.s. Something got messed up earlier... I'm trying again.

Posted: 6/1/2006 12:07:51 PM

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P: 6/1/2006 12:16:25 PM
Carlotta Cut Rock Total Posts: 348 Last Post: 2/21/2007 Member Since: 2/16/2006	When you say "Tiffany knife edge solitaire" do you mean the real deal (from Tiffany) or a particular replica you have seen.........?
Posted: 6/1/2006 12:16:25 PM

P: 6/1/2006 12:24:51 PM
froufrou Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 6/23/2006 Member Since: 4/15/2006	i think it depends on the size of the diamond. anything smaller than .75 ct or so i think i would go with the Tiff. knife edge cause it really looks like the diamond pops out, makes it look visually bigger. i think the vatche is a little thicker band looking from the top but is very pretty for a larger diamond.
Posted: 6/1/2006 12:24:51 PM

P: 6/1/2006 12:29:45 PM
anchor31 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,366 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 10/18/2005	Do you have pics to show us for comparison? ******** R & J 08-02-08 Expecting baby on 12-30-09
Posted: 6/1/2006 12:29:45 PM

P: 6/1/2006 12:33:31 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Date: 6/1/2006 12:16:25 PM Author: Carlotta When you say 'Tiffany knife edge solitaire' do you mean the real deal (from Tiffany) or a particular replica you have seen.........? hummm... good question. I would say real onoe or very well copied replica, like the one from SuperbCert.
Posted: 6/1/2006 12:33:31 PM

P: 6/1/2006 12:50:04 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Date: 6/1/2006 12:29:45 PM Author: anchor31 Do you have pics to show us for comparison? I'm having trouble posting pictures, so I added the link to their sites in my original post. Please see the top. Frou Frou, That's a good point. Mine is going to be 1 ct or a bit larger, so may be better off staying with Tiffany... So, did you decide which replica you are going with??
Posted: 6/1/2006 12:50:04 PM

P: 6/1/2006 2:16:25 PM
squawks Rough Rock Total Posts: 47 Last Post: 6/9/2006 Member Since: 4/24/2006	@ froufrou - refer to my thread here to see WhiteFlash's Tiffany replica (including onhand pics). In my opinion they did a superb job and it does look like the real deal! AccordStoppy also has the same setting from WhiteFlash. I voted for the Tiffany setting because I love how the diamond has a lower profile relative to the Vatche (the Tiffany setting actually has a very low profile compared to many other settings). The diamond is held a bit higher and this may be bad for pragmatic reasons as the diamond is more prone to being struck against something or caught in jackets, coats, etc. I suppose the advantage of having a high profile is that the diamond will give off the illusion that it's slightly bigger than it really is - people will get the impression that the diamond is "tall" when in reality it isn't. I am also not a big fan of the irregularly sized prongs on the Vatche (2 big prongs, 4 smaller) as I feel that takes away from the beauty of the stone. Personally I feel that the smaller the prongs, the better. Nevertheless you can't go wrong with either. EDIT: Let me add that the Vatche is "comfort fit" with the rounded edge while the Tiffany is knife-edge. That's a huge advantage for Vatche as there are a bunch of ladies who find the knife-edge to be uncomfortable (my woman can feel the sharpness of the knife-edge but she doesn't mind knowing that the aesthetics outweigh this slight discomfort). She doesn't think it's uncomfortable enough to change the setting. EDIT EDIT: Let me also add that the Vatche band is thicker than Tiffany's. This may appeal to some while it may not to others. I personally find that the thinner the band, the 'bigger' the diamond appears. -Kevin 1/7 of your life is spent on Monday!
Posted: 6/1/2006 2:16:25 PM

P: 6/1/2006 2:32:01 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 6/1/2006 12:33:31 PM Author: oceanbeach Date: 6/1/2006 12:16:25 PM Author: Carlotta When you say 'Tiffany knife edge solitaire' do you mean the real deal (from Tiffany) or a particular replica you have seen.........? hummm... good question. I would say real onoe or very well copied replica, like the one from SuperbCert. Just want to clarify, you can't buy a diamond and then go to Tiffany's and have it set in their knife-edge setting. So I am taking the poll to mean one of the replicas such as Superbcert, WF, and Quest. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 6/1/2006 2:32:01 PM

P: 6/1/2006 10:53:32 PM
froufrou Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 6/23/2006 Member Since: 4/15/2006	ocean and sqwacks (by the way s., i can never spell your name right), i decided to go with the Union Diamond Tiffany Replica that Kit's got. They are no longer selling them without a diamond purchase from them but after I pointed out to Tony that he does not have that clearly stated on his website he fixed the website and said I was allowed to buy one so I did. I think the WF one looks wonderful, as does the Superbcert one, from all the pics ive seen on here. The UD one was considerably cheaper than those ($449 for Plat) so i decided to order it and hopefully it will be as gorgeous as Kit's once its set! now again i run into trying to figure out who will be able to set my ring. i was completely undecisive about my ring til i actually pressed "confirm" on the purchase..haha. im excited now for it to arrive. what's your budget for the setting, Ocean? are you specifically looking to get one that closely replicates the Tiff or the Vatche? The x prongs are really cool on the vatche.. :) i also like the ones that have a thin shank and then the head is kind of diamond encrusted or something else neat going on with the head. i think there was a post in here just now of one like that.
Posted: 6/1/2006 10:53:32 PM

P: 6/2/2006 6:55:01 AM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Hi Frou Frou, That's great that you were able to purchase the UD setting. Congrat! When you receive it, please post the picture! Like Kit was saying before the prong may look odd with out mounting a diamond, but that's o.k.. I still want to see it. My budget is about $6500 total. So, more money I spend on setting, less money I will have for Diamond.. I think it's better to spend more on diamond than setting. Do you agree? The Vatche Royal Crown that I like is $1100, so it's kind of high for me. But, if I really like it, then I may go for. I don't know... I really love the look of it, but what I don't like about are the thicker band and high setting. I'm soooo indecisive, so I'm sure I will change my mind 100 times before I actually get one. We are not buying one until July or Aug.
Posted: 6/2/2006 6:55:01 AM

P: 6/2/2006 7:31:03 AM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	I agree with you, ocean, that I'd want the most money possible for the diamond. It is hard to reconcile the cost between a standard "tiffany" setting in the $400 range and the 6 prong Tiffany replica at around $1200. I don't think you could go wrong with a plain tiffany setting and then upgrade it later if it was really important to you. The diamond is the thing that stands out in any kind of tiffany setting, and that's the great thing! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 6/2/2006 7:31:03 AM

P: 6/2/2006 12:44:16 PM
old-fashioned girl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,621 Last Post: 10/31/2008 Member Since: 8/1/2005	Just a disclaimer: I have never seen either one in person. And I agree with those who say it probably depends on the size of the diamond etc... I just think that royal crown is a more beautiful, interesting design than the Tiffany. And I'm not a big fan personally of knife-edge shanks. The only thing that might sway me, if I saw them in person or had to wear one, is I do like thinner shanks on my own hand, and it looks like the Tiffany might be thinner.
Posted: 6/2/2006 12:44:16 PM

P: 6/2/2006 12:59:52 PM
txideal Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 6/8/2004	Hello, I haven't posted in a long time, but have been lurking for a while. I can tell you from my own personal experience with Tiffany (the real one), WF, SuperbCert, & Vatche. When we were looking, I tested them all out in person. Tiffany's looks nice and new in the store, but over time the PT that they use has a patina to it, which I didn't like. I wanted my PT to look new all the time. WF is light, SuperbCert is one that I found was closest to Tiffany's but we decided on Vatche, because I like their high polish PT and it is very comfortable to wear. I really don't have any problems w/ my Royal Crown at all. I like the feminine graceful lines and the extra prongs for security. I also liked it because I think it's around 3 mm at its widest and something like 2.5 or 2.3 at its thinnest. I'm a petite girl that wears a size 6 and I think it fits me fine for a RBC Ideal at over 1 ct. Good Luck! txideal
Posted: 6/2/2006 12:59:52 PM

P: 6/2/2006 1:03:07 PM
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,936 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002	i loveeee the RC setting and think it looks best with larger stones..i voted RC. tiffany is beautiful and all but to me if you are considering the RC to the Tiff, the RC stands out more each time and is visually more interesting. maybe it's because we see so many tiffany replicas on here (the good ones) i am becoming more immune to them...hehe. ________________________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein
Posted: 6/2/2006 1:03:07 PM

P: 6/2/2006 3:00:20 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Date: 6/2/2006 12:59:52 PM Author: txideal Hello, I haven't posted in a long time, but have been lurking for a while. I can tell you from my own personal experience with Tiffany (the real one), WF, SuperbCert, & Vatche. When we were looking, I tested them all out in person. Tiffany's looks nice and new in the store, but over time the PT that they use has a patina to it, which I didn't like. I wanted my PT to look new all the time. WF is light, SuperbCert is one that I found was closest to Tiffany's but we decided on Vatche, because I like their high polish PT and it is very comfortable to wear. I really don't have any problems w/ my Royal Crown at all. I like the feminine graceful lines and the extra prongs for security. I also liked it because I think it's around 3 mm at its widest and something like 2.5 or 2.3 at its thinnest. I'm a petite girl that wears a size 6 and I think it fits me fine for a RBC Ideal at over 1 ct. Good Luck! Hi txideal, Thanks for great input. I didn't know there are difference in Platinum... I thought if it is 950 PT, it's all the same thing. So, are you saying that there are some difference? What should I be looking at?! I'm currently thinking of going to a local jeweler to create a replica of either setting. A trusted appraiser recommended the jeweler to me, so I think they would do a decent job. But, how could I know their platinum (950PT) is one I would like? I'm starting to wonder what I'm thinking of doing is some what risky and better off buying from well-known tiffany replica vendors or Vatche. Any suggestion/opinions?
Posted: 6/2/2006 3:00:20 PM

P: 6/2/2006 3:15:15 PM
froufrou Cut Rock Total Posts: 304 Last Post: 6/23/2006 Member Since: 4/15/2006	ocean.. i think you might also look into 990 pt? there were some people on here saying that it does not get a patina. its okay to spend money on the setting after all, :) because it will be holding your precious diamond!! :) im excited to see which one you will get. if you know a good local jeweler you should go for it, but if you dont maybe you should stick to buying one online or having one of the reputable online dealers design it. but if you had one designed, perhaps you could get a knife edge royal crown??? :):) i wonder what that would looki like...
Posted: 6/2/2006 3:15:15 PM

P: 6/2/2006 3:57:34 PM
squawks Rough Rock Total Posts: 47 Last Post: 6/9/2006 Member Since: 4/24/2006	Ocean, 950 platinum means that the setting has 950 parts of platinum per 50 parts of alloy. Despite a lot of jewelry stamped/labeled as 950 (95%) platinum, the other 5% also makes a big difference. Today's most common alloys are ruthenium and iridium. Both have slightly different hardnesses - you can do a search as there are more threads regarding platinum. No matter which alloy you pick, platinum will always remain quite easy to scratch/dent but the good thing is that you can always polish it and it'll look smooth as new again. I polish my 950plat/ruth almost 3 times a year but I think I should do it more often. -Kevin 1/7 of your life is spent on Monday!
Posted: 6/2/2006 3:57:34 PM

P: 6/2/2006 6:32:52 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Frou Frou, haha... I was thinking similar thing! If the local jeweler says he can do the Vatche RC as a custom, then I may ask him to make the band thinner, like 2.5 or so. I don't think I will do knife edge though b/c not sure if that will go with design... Although I do love knife edge.... But, anywya, this is only if I like RC after trying on. I'm heading to a jeweler who has the setting this weekend. Squawks, Thanks for the info. I will see what I can find in other threads.
Posted: 6/2/2006 6:32:52 PM

P: 6/2/2006 6:43:48 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	Date: 6/2/2006 12:59:52 PM Author: txideal Hello, I haven't posted in a long time, but have been lurking for a while. I can tell you from my own personal experience with Tiffany (the real one), WF, SuperbCert, & Vatche. When we were looking, I tested them all out in person. Tiffany's looks nice and new in the store, but over time the PT that they use has a patina to it, which I didn't like. I wanted my PT to look new all the time. WF is light, SuperbCert is one that I found was closest to Tiffany's but we decided on Vatche, because I like their high polish PT and it is very comfortable to wear. I really don't have any problems w/ my Royal Crown at all. I like the feminine graceful lines and the extra prongs for security. I also liked it because I think it's around 3 mm at its widest and something like 2.5 or 2.3 at its thinnest. I'm a petite girl that wears a size 6 and I think it fits me fine for a RBC Ideal at over 1 ct. Good Luck! By the way, do you have picture of your ring? I've seen some picture show me the ring section, but I can't find a pic of RC from the side while a person is wearing it. Thanks!
Posted: 6/2/2006 6:43:48 PM

P: 6/4/2006 8:10:59 AM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	I went to a local retail shop and tried on the RC setting. It's beautiful! I love how the head portion looks. It's very unique and nothing like it. BUT, I did feel that the band is thinker than what I want it to be.... maybe because I tried it on with 1ct diamond, but that's the size of stone I will get. I'm considering of custom made one with the band thinnered. Not sure how well it will turn out though...
Posted: 6/4/2006 8:10:59 AM

P: 6/4/2006 10:36:28 PM
txideal Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 6/8/2004	No, sorry I don't have pics of my ring. The thing you need to know from the jeweler is if they will finish it off with a high polish. That's a main reason why I picked the RC because Vatche uses high quality PT and I knew they did quality work. Just show them the picture of the RC and tell them you want it exactly like that but with a smaller mm width. One of these days I'll take some pics. I'm wanting an upgrade and I've been married less than a yr! Good Luck! txideal
Posted: 6/4/2006 10:36:28 PM

P: 6/5/2006 8:34:11 PM
oceanbeach Cut Rock Total Posts: 160 Last Post: 10/21/2006 Member Since: 3/19/2006	txideal, Thanks for the advise!
Posted: 6/5/2006 8:34:11 PM

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