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Another possible diamond??? |
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| P: 5/30/2006 6:10:02 PM | |
mamadi Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 5/20/2006 |
Hello, EGL Cert.
Price: $31,500
MHM |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:10:02 PM | |
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There are 15 replies to this message. There are 15 replies on this page. |
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| P: 5/30/2006 6:16:30 PM | |
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Does the cert give you a crown angle and pavilion angle? Those measurements would be needed to put it in the HCA. But the other factor is, an EGL G color may be H or I. And remember, you may very well be able to see inclusions in a 3-4 ct. stone with SI2. So she understands that she will not get a good quality stone at 3-4 carats and wants the size even if it means poor quality? Gosh we'd have fun helping you get a fine quality stone with that kind of budget!!!!
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:16:30 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:22:11 PM | |
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mamadi Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 5/20/2006 |
Date: 5/30/2006 6:16:30 PM Awsome input...I only have the crown and pavilion % numbers (I know it's not as good). But HCA gives it a great score based on the percentages. I'm hoping that the stone is close to G or at worste an H. I have asked the seller (Diamond Registry) if it is "eye clean", and he has said yes.Author: diamondseeker2006 Does the cert give you a crown angle and pavilion angle? Those measurements would be needed to put it in the HCA. But the other factor is, an EGL G color may be H or I. And remember, you may very well be able to see inclusions in a 3-4 ct. stone with SI2. So she understands that she will not get a good quality stone at 3-4 carats and wants the size even if it means poor quality? Gosh we'd have fun helping you get a fine quality stone with that kind of budget!!!! I have three days after receipt to have it appraised and send it back if I am unsatisfied. If it shows inclusions with the naked eye, it's going back! MHM |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:22:11 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:25:34 PM | |
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
is this from ebay?
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:25:34 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:30:59 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
That's great that you can have it appraised and return it. Do you have a reliable independent appraiser lined up? I know there are some recommended on here from time to time if you want to tell us your general location. And just in case that one doesn't work out, maybe you could get her on the Good Old Gold site to learn about diamond quality? Does she even know about the suoer ideal cut hearts and arrows stones? I didn't until I came here! And here is an example of some stones in your budget (no, I do not work for anyone...just diamond shopping myself, but it's fun to help others spend their money!  )http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/1108/ http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/1899/ http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/1900/ Anyway, good luck to you and let us know how this stone turns out!
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:30:59 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:32:18 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
BELLE: ROTFLOL!!!!!!! (This was a joke about her avatar, not about any posts in this thread)
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:32:18 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:36:50 PM | |
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,218 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004 |
ask the vendor for a sarin scan. you have a big $35k budget,don't blow it.
it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone. |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:36:50 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 6:48:40 PM | |
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Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,218 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004 |
Date: 5/30/2006 6:22:11 PM yeah butttt.... can you get your money back??? Author: mamadi Awsome input...I only have the crown and pavilion % numbers (I know it's not as good). But HCA gives it a great score based on the percentages. I'm hoping that the stone is close to G or at worste an H. I have asked the seller (Diamond Registry) if it is 'eye clean', and he has said yes. I have three days after receipt to have it appraised and send it back if I am unsatisfied. If it shows inclusions with the naked eye, it's going back! 
it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone. |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 6:48:40 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM | |
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mamadi Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 5/20/2006 |
The diamond is from a site called www.DiamondRegistry.com. I don't know much else about them, and any input would be appreciated on this vendor. I plan to protect myself and ensure that I can return the diamond (I haven't exactly decided how to do this). Unfortunately, my girlfriend is set on her choice of round brilliant, and has her heart set on the size. This is going to be the first big diamond for her, and I'm sure I will move onto better quality stones for subsequent anniversaries. The cut does seem to be good based on the HCA, correct? MHM |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 7:48:10 PM | |
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,904 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002 |
the HCA is really not useful to you with this stone, because EGL rounds the percentages, aka if the % of the crown angle is 12.6 then they will round to 13. this means that these numbers are not accurate enough to use in the HCA with any real measure of success. angles are the most accurate. the HCA with %'s is useful to tell you if it's a total dud, aka if it scores 4 with %'s then it's not going to score better with angles. get a sarin...when you are dropping $30k you should do due diligence. i also have never heard of diamond registry. chances are with an EGL graded 3.87c SI2 stone you will see inclusions. EGL is a notoriously loose lab as already mentioned, so who knows what you are really getting. good luck!! ________________________________ |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 7:48:10 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 7:53:06 PM | |
sunkist Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,719 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2005 |
Date: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM Author: mamadi The diamond is from a site called www.DiamondRegistry.com. I don't know much else about them, and any input would be appreciated on this vendor. I plan to protect myself and ensure that I can return the diamond (I haven't exactly decided how to do this). Unfortunately, my girlfriend is set on her choice of round brilliant, and has her heart set on the size. This is going to be the first big diamond for her, and I'm sure I will move onto better quality stones for subsequent anniversaries. The cut does seem to be good based on the HCA, correct? If you're planning on doing upgrades in the future, does this DiamondRegistry credit you the full price of the stone for upgrades? Because trading it in at another jeweler, you probably wouldn't get the full value you paid.
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 7:53:06 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 8:05:03 PM | |
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mamadi Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 5/20/2006 |
Date: 5/30/2006 7:53:06 PM That's a very good point, but I don't think I will want this particular stone upgraded, since it is the engagement ring. The option of upgrading will be valuable in future purchases (i.e. anniversary gifts).
Author: sunkist Date: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM Author: mamadi The diamond is from a site called www.DiamondRegistry.com. I don't know much else about them, and any input would be appreciated on this vendor. I plan to protect myself and ensure that I can return the diamond (I haven't exactly decided how to do this). Unfortunately, my girlfriend is set on her choice of round brilliant, and has her heart set on the size. This is going to be the first big diamond for her, and I'm sure I will move onto better quality stones for subsequent anniversaries. The cut does seem to be good based on the HCA, correct? If you're planning on doing upgrades in the future, does this DiamondRegistry credit you the full price of the stone for upgrades? Because trading it in at another jeweler, you probably wouldn't get the full value you paid. MHM |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 8:05:03 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 8:05:59 PM | |
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Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,218 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004 |
Date: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM so far the "specs" you posted looks okay but,still you should ask for a sarin scan. tell your GF size means nothing if it don't sparkle like it should.
Author: mamadi The diamond is from a site called www.DiamondRegistry.com. I don't know much else about them, and any input would be appreciated on this vendor. I plan to protect myself and ensure that I can return the diamond (I haven't exactly decided how to do this). Unfortunately, my girlfriend is set on her choice of round brilliant, and has her heart set on the size. This is going to be the first big diamond for her, and I'm sure I will move onto better quality stones for subsequent anniversaries. The cut does seem to be good based on the HCA, correct? it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone. |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 8:05:59 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 8:11:14 PM | |
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mamadi Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 6/1/2006 Member Since: 5/20/2006 |
Date: 5/30/2006 8:05:59 PM I just sent an email requesting a sarin scan, and some sort of insurance that I will be able to get my money back if the stone is really not as the EGL cert states (i.e. dimensions, color, clarity, etc.). My history is also such (too long to explain) that I really do want a 3.5 - 4.0 c diamond for my GF, so maybe I should increase my budget and get a better quality rock?
Author: Dancing Fire Date: 5/30/2006 7:41:00 PM so far the 'specs' you posted looks okay but,still you should ask for a sarin scan. tell your GF size means nothing if it don't sparkle like it should.Author: mamadi The diamond is from a site called www.DiamondRegistry.com. I don't know much else about them, and any input would be appreciated on this vendor. I plan to protect myself and ensure that I can return the diamond (I haven't exactly decided how to do this). Unfortunately, my girlfriend is set on her choice of round brilliant, and has her heart set on the size. This is going to be the first big diamond for her, and I'm sure I will move onto better quality stones for subsequent anniversaries. The cut does seem to be good based on the HCA, correct? MHM |
| Posted: 5/30/2006 8:11:14 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 8:13:17 PM | |
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,144 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005 |
Get what you can afford...make sure you can afford what you get.
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 8:13:17 PM | |
| P: 5/30/2006 11:23:20 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
If you can afford it, by all means get her a good quality stone! And please consider contacting one of these vendors who has a reputation for years in the business and has an earnest desire (and the equipment) to get you an excellent stone. There are several that I'd buy from, but take a look at a site like GoodOld Gold and you'll see all the information he has on his site to educate the comsumer and then all the information he has on each diamond listed. I am sure Jon at GoodOldGold, or Wink of Winfield's, or Issac at Dimend Scaasi (three examples I have personally received very good service from) would be so happy to help you find a lovely 3 ct. stone, and you could give her quality as well as quantity. Let me add that if I were spending $35,000 or more, I wouldn't even look at certifications other than AGS or GIA.
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| Posted: 5/30/2006 11:23:20 PM | |
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