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P: 5/10/2006 6:38:45 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	Hey everyone, I would appreciate help choosing the best of the following diamonds, based on their certs. Anyone willing to help, I thank you in advance. They are as follows: 1. Report: GIA Shape: Round Ideal Cut Clarity: SI1 Depth: 61.6 Table: 55 Crown Angle: 35 Crown %: 15.6 Pavilion Angle: 41.1 Pavilion %: 43.5 Girdle: Thin to Medium-Faceted Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Very Good Culet: None Fluorescence: None 2. Report: AGS Shape: Round Ideal Cut Clarity: SI1 Depth: 60.1 Table: 57 Crown Angle: 34.6 Crown %: 14.9 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Pavilion %: 42.9 Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: None 3. Report: AGS Shape: A Cut Above H&A Clarity: SI2 Depth: 60.1 Table: 56 Crown Angle: 34.8 Crown %: 15.2 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Pavilion %: 42.8 Girdle: Thin Faceted Polish: Ideal Symmetry: Ideal Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: None 4. Report: AGS Shape: A Cut Above H&A Clarity: SI1 Depth: 60.1 Table: 55.3 Crown Angle: 34.6 Crown %: 15.4 Pavilion Angle: 40.6 Pavilion %: 42.8 Girdle: Thin to Medium Polish: Ideal Symmetry: Ideal Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: None I prefer number two, I think, based on what I know. I think.
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:38:45 PM

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P: 5/10/2006 6:42:43 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	Get rid of 1. Please post idealscopes for 2, 3, and 4.
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:42:43 PM

P: 5/10/2006 6:44:26 PM
KristyDarling Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,918 Last Post: 10/6/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005	I like #2, as long as it's eye clean. Angles on 2-4 look good but #2 is spreadiest. And I think faceted girdles are nice.
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:44:26 PM

P: 5/10/2006 6:46:55 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	KD, can you explain to me how you know #2 is the spreadiest?
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:46:55 PM

P: 5/10/2006 6:51:49 PM
sunkist Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,720 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2005	They're all really close. Just looking at #s I'd rank it #3, 2, 4, 1.
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:51:49 PM

P: 5/10/2006 6:53:11 PM
KristyDarling Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,918 Last Post: 10/6/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005	Date: 5/10/2006 6:46:55 PM Author: JulieN KD, can you explain to me how you know #2 is the spreadiest? The table percentage. (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:53:11 PM

P: 5/10/2006 6:58:10 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	So say you have a 34.5 CA on two stones, and then a 56% T and a 58%T. That means that the 58% was "chopped off" sooner than the 56%, meaning that the CH is less on the 58%... and then how do you extrapolate that to more spread? ETA (more rambling): so if the CH is less on my stone 2 (58T) and keeping depth, girdle, and carat constant, that means that the PH must be deeper on the 58%. In the case of MightyTower's stones, depth and PA are pretty constant, with T and CA (and correspondingly, CH) being different.... Anyway, point is: I am not sure you can't just look at 58T and 56T and say, 58 is spreadier. I think you have to know...everything else.
Posted: 5/10/2006 6:58:10 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:14:14 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	This has me in over my head. CH, TA, I don't understand. I don't know what spreadiest means.
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:14:14 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:19:44 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	CH-crown height T-table CA-crown angle PA-pavilion angle PH-pavilion height Spread is the the face-up area of the stone. I can't choose between 2-4 just by numbers. Defintely need Idealscope. If you want me to pick the best deal (assuming they're all eyeclean) I need prices and dimensions (spread)
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:19:44 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:20:09 PM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	2 3 and 4 have the same depth so for any given weight they would be close to the same spread. spread is weight for diameter. For example a 1ct stone that is 6.5mm wide would have better spread than one that is 1ct and 6.4mm wide. There isnt enough info to pick from them. Need to know which is eyeclean and get IS images. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:20:09 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:35:08 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	Number 2: http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=2362028&file_name=3 Number 3: http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=2362001&file_name=3 Number 4: http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=2361999&file_name=3 Three and four look identical to me. I've been told some white is good, too. So I can't tell which is better, based on these images. Even though Number 1 was booted, here's the image of it: http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=1180496&file_name=3
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:35:08 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:47:02 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	1 2 3 4
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:47:02 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:50:25 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	Number 2 has the darkest triangle areas in between the longer rays shooting out from the center. Does that mean it has the best cut? Am I looking for more white, more dark, or more defined image patterns?
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:50:25 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:51:08 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	sorry, made a mistake
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:51:08 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:52:28 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	Number three looks so clear, like stained glass. Is that a good thing?
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:52:28 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,227 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Julie 3 and 4 looks like the same IS. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM

P: 5/10/2006 7:57:04 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	any of those are going to be amazing. you would not be able to tell them apart in normal lighting conditions. best of luck in your decision! you won't be disappointed in whichever you choose. (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 5/10/2006 7:57:04 PM

P: 5/11/2006 1:24:18 AM
KristyDarling Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,918 Last Post: 10/6/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005	Yup, I'll agree with Belle. They will all be knockouts! In terms of light performance, only like 8 people in the world would be able to tell the three apart with the naked eye!
Posted: 5/11/2006 1:24:18 AM

P: 5/11/2006 3:00:11 AM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,227 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM Author: Dancing Fire Julie 3 and 4 looks like the same IS. Julie thanks for the IS edit it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 5/11/2006 3:00:11 AM

P: 5/30/2006 11:53:20 PM
mightytower Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 5/30/2006 Member Since: 5/10/2006	Thanks for all your help, ladies. I appreciate it. I'm confident that I made a good choice based on the things I've learned from you kind people. Thank you so much!!
Posted: 5/30/2006 11:53:20 PM

P: 5/31/2006 12:38:26 AM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	ladies + Dancing Fire and Strm! Don't forget to post pics in SMTR.
Posted: 5/31/2006 12:38:26 AM

P: 5/31/2006 10:55:48 AM
aljdewey Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,236 Last Post: 2/11/2008 Member Since: 11/25/2002	Date: 5/10/2006 6:53:11 PM Author: KristyDarling Date: 5/10/2006 6:46:55 PM Author: JulieN KD, can you explain to me how you know #2 is the spreadiest? The table percentage. (someone correct me if I'm wrong!) Ok...... It's not the table. "Spread" is the diameter of the stone (edge to edge) relative to its weight. Poorly cut 1 ct. stones often only have a diameter of 6.2-6.3mm. Well cut 1 ct. stones have a diameter of approximately. 6.5mm. In both cases, the stone weighs 1 ct., but the well-cut one has better spread (diameter) for the weight. _____________________ Note: Chainsaw Not Sold Separately.
Posted: 5/31/2006 10:55:48 AM

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