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If you're looking to put a square-ISH diamond in a square setting... |
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| P: 5/9/2006 11:51:00 PM | |
TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,345 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
Just thought I'd post this one for the archives. I made a boo boo...guess I didn't research enough. I got the cushion diamond through whiteflash. At 1.03 ratio is is quite square. I bought a Jeff Cooper setting that is meant for square diamonds...the standard being the princess. I told WF I was getting the setting through a jeweler that sells Jeff Cooper. I told the jeweler what the dimensions of the diamond were (5.90x6.10x3.82). JC made the setting to those dimensions and my ring size. I saw the setting before I sent it to WF and it fit perfectly and looked great. So Bob calls me today and says there is a problem, and has me talk to Leon, their jeweler. The problem isn't too awful, but basically the setting is too big for the stone, even though I gave the jeweler the dimensions on the GIA cert. Because this setting was made for a princess, the dimensons could be the same, but on the cushion the corners are obviously rounded. This makes for a smaller corner to corner measurement on the cushion vs the princess...even though the length/width could be the same stat. Since I sent everyone involved a pic of the setting and the diamond, I wish someome could have tipped me off to this. But at the end of the day, it's really my problem. Leon says it will be fine, but that the prongs will need to curve around the diamond, a la Vatche style. I like vatche prongs so I have no problem with that, but I hope I like the trial photos they send me tomorrow morning (they are taking pics of the stone in the setting before they mount it), otherwise I don't know quite what I will do. 
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| Posted: 5/9/2006 11:51:00 PM | |
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| P: 5/10/2006 9:19:07 AM | |
Dee*Jay Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,491 Last Post: 9/23/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2006 |
Don't worry -- jewelers can work miracles. It sounds like modifying the prongs won't be a big deal and your ring will still be very beautiful. Keep us posted with those pics when you get 'em!
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 9:19:07 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:08:40 AM | |
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TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,345 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
Thanks...I feel better now. WF just sent me photos of what the stone looks like in the setting. I think it's going to be OK. I know the shank is thick, but I love thicker bands. Pics are below, if anyone is interested, or sees anything that I am not seeing! I think WF is just being very particular and careful...which I appreciate!  _______________________ |
| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:08:40 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:13:38 AM | |
FireGoddess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,145 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 1/25/2005 |
It still looks to my non-professional eye that this is going to look beautiful and work out rather well. I wouldn't have known that the setting is too big just from looking at it, particularly from the side view - it looks like it should, as far as I can tell. 
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:13:38 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:14:25 AM | |
sumbride Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,867 Last Post: 1/21/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2006 |
the stone looks so pretty on that band! can't wait to see how they handle the prongs. I'm sure they'll do a good job... in my short time at PS, I've seen so many beautiful WF pieces!
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:14:25 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:15:29 AM | |
decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,629 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005 |
Wow ... it kinda looks East/West even though it's "square"!! Looks COOL! Now here's where I cause trouble ... aren't you kinda, kinda curious how it would look set North/South ... flipped in the setting. The reason I ask is that now that I'm "tweaking" my setting I was toying with the idea of setting my slightly elongated Asscher East/West. The jeweler did not like it that way AT ALL. We must have spent an hour flipping it ... looking at it in all lights... and finally I realized that he was right. It "lost" more than it "gained" by being East/West. I did ask if we could change it later if I changed my mind again!  It boiled down to the subtle difference between "flow" and "pop". I think right now you have "flow" & it's probably exactly right for the ring. Just curious what "pop" would do. Aren't you?? 
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:15:29 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:29:57 AM | |
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FireGoddess Ideal Rock Total Posts: 12,145 Last Post: 3/23/2009 Member Since: 1/25/2005 |
You know I thought I was being cockeyed so I didn't say anything, but it DOES look like it's set east/west even though it's almost perfectly square? ETA: see, I went back to look and I've convinced myself it looks square. 
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:29:57 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:39:03 AM | |
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TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,345 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
Date: 5/10/2006 11:15:29 AM Author: decodelighted Wow ... it kinda looks East/West even though it's 'square'!! Looks COOL! Now here's where I cause trouble ... aren't you kinda, kinda curious how it would look set North/South ... flipped in the setting. The reason I ask is that now that I'm 'tweaking' my setting I was toying with the idea of setting my slightly elongated Asscher East/West. The jeweler did not like it that way AT ALL. We must have spent an hour flipping it ... looking at it in all lights... and finally I realized that he was right. It 'lost' more than it 'gained' by being East/West. I did ask if we could change it later if I changed my mind again! It boiled down to the subtle difference between 'flow' and 'pop'. I think right now you have 'flow' & it's probably exactly right for the ring. Just curious what 'pop' would do. Aren't you?? Deco, you are a freak...and I am one right along with you!!!  You should have seen me with the jeweler who was doing the setting. I kept asking if they were doing it to the specifications, because the diamond is not exactly square and I wanted to know if the diamond HAD to be set in a certain way. When WF took photos of the diamond it was definitely east/west and I grew accustomed to seeing it that way. So I AM wondering what it will look like north/south, but when I saw the east/west pics I posted, I really liked it that way. "flow" and "pop" are probably the perfect ways to put it...and I've always been a go with the flow kind of gal. Now it could happen that WF just threw it in there so it was a 50/50 chance, and when they set it, it may end up N/S. I'm kind of easy, and since I've been so damn involved with this process, I would be fine with a surprise. Firegoddess, we all obviously agreed, so you aren't cockeyed!  It's 1.03, so it definitely is not exactly square. But I went and looked at it again, and sure enough, my eyes started to think it was square. Boy, we PSers are observant, aren't we? ETA - Great. Now I am sitting here looking at the pic with my head straight. Then cocked left. Then cocked right. Then straight. *Neck cramp!* _______________________ |
| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:39:03 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:43:57 AM | |
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decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,629 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005 |
Did they ALREADY set it?? ... or could they at least eyeball it the other way (or TAKE PIXXXX!!!!) Hurry girl, get to that phone!
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:43:57 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 11:50:43 AM | |
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TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,345 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
Date: 5/10/2006 11:43:57 AM Author: decodelighted Did they ALREADY set it?? ... or could they at least eyeball it the other way (or TAKE PIXXXX!!!!) Hurry girl, get to that phone! LOL Deco...I spoke to Bob early this morning and gave him the go ahead to set it. I don't think I need him to think I'm nuttier than I already am, so I'll refrain from asking for more pics, especially since we really want this ring by tomorrow since the BFs parents are coming this weekend and we are on vacation for two weeks! But have faith that if I did have more time, I would definitely have "done a deco." (Has a fun ring to it, doesn't it? "Look ma, I'm doin' the deco!" *flip right, then left, then right then left!*) I'll post the final photos, and we can see if it was really indeed set E/W! Plus I'm getting my mom's cushion this week, so I am very curious how that one will be set (it has the same ratio). I let Mark T have free rein with that one...I don't even know what setting it's coming in. Being anal with one ring was enough!!!
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 11:50:43 AM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 12:03:00 PM | |
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decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,629 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005 |
Date: 5/10/2006 11:50:43 AM Author: TravelingGal Has a fun ring to it, doesn't it? 'Look ma, I'm doin' the deco!' *flip right, then left, then right then left!* LOL!! For FUTURE reference I think it goes more like this .. *flip right* *eat a brownie* *flip left* *crack a diet coke* *flip right* *pace* *burp* *flip left* *scream, apropo of nothing, "TAYLOR HICKS FOR CLASS PRESIDENT" *repeat* My Deco-along-at-home DVD is coming out in time for X-mas!
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 12:03:00 PM | |
| P: 5/10/2006 12:05:55 PM | |
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TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,345 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
Date: 5/10/2006 12:03:00 PM Author: decodelighted LOL!! For FUTURE reference I think it goes more like this .. *flip right* *eat a brownie* *flip left* *crack a diet coke* *flip right* *pace* *burp* *flip left* *scream, apropo of nothing, 'TAYLOR HICKS FOR CLASS PRESIDENT' *repeat* My Deco-along-at-home DVD is coming out in time for X-mas! I will buy one and support your efforts by spreading the word - ONLY if I get some of the proceeds so I can buy another diamond that I can flip N/S/E/W! 
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| Posted: 5/10/2006 12:05:55 PM | |
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