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 Please look at the SARIN and IDEALSCOPE for this diamond

P:  5/9/2006 11:12:28 PM  
Creamyitalian
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I'm very close to buying this diamond. Please comment on it's SARIN REPORT and IDEAL SCOPE IMAGE:

 



Posted:  5/9/2006 11:12:28 PM

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P: 5/9/2006 11:14:01 PM
Creamyitalian
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Here is the IDEAL SCOPE:

 

 

Posted:  5/9/2006 11:14:01 PM
P: 5/9/2006 11:19:46 PM
Creamyitalian
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Here is the 40x image from WhiteFlash. Just to let you know, it is 1.05 ct, H color, SI2 clarity.

It seems like there are two inclusion visible with the 40x image, though it is described as eye clean.

Just using the GIA report, this diamond passed the HCA with flying colors getting all excellents except a VG for spread and a scor of 0.9. But using the SARIN, it only got excellent for light, VG for ecerything else with a score of 1.5. I believe the difference is that the GIA report stated the pavilion angle was 40.8 but the SARIN states it as 41.0. Still it seems pretty good.

So how does it all look? Is that a good ideal scope???

 

 

Posted:  5/9/2006 11:19:46 PM
P: 5/9/2006 11:41:11 PM
sunkist
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Date: 5/9/2006 11:14:01 PM
Author: Creamyitalian
Here is the IDEAL SCOPE:



It's not perfectly symmetrical, but I don't know how that would affect performance. It doesn' t look there 's any light leakage though, so that's good! Perhaps some experts here will tell you what they think.

Posted:  5/9/2006 11:41:11 PM
P: 5/9/2006 11:44:19 PM
Dancing Fire
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hmmm have seen better from WF. is this a stone that they call in for you?

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  5/9/2006 11:44:19 PM
P: 5/9/2006 11:46:14 PM
Creamyitalian
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Ya, it is an outside diamond. I can't afford A cut above. I figured the numbers were good and the price was decent.

Posted:  5/9/2006 11:46:14 PM
P: 5/10/2006 12:07:59 AM
sunkist
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Creamy, what matters to you most? Answer to yourself honestly Cost, size, perfect cut, color, clarity? If this stone hits all the right points for you, it just might be for you! I do think you could find a stone with a little better cut though for a similar price. But how much time do you have before you've got to have the stone? You might want to take a look at this stone, perhaps compare it with others. What's your price budget? Perhaps we could help in the search!

Posted:  5/10/2006 12:07:59 AM
P: 5/10/2006 12:16:28 AM
Creamyitalian
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I'm looking for close to 1 carat, g-h color, si1-si2 clarity and ideal cut (because that is most important for how the diamond looks). Looking at the numbers and putting it through HCA this appears to be a good diamond. The ideal scope seems a little off to me though. This diamond is listed at 3999 which is at the top of my budget for the diamond.

The problem I foresee is that it will take much too long to get ideal scopes, sarins, magnified images, etc for every diamond I come across that has good "numbers." My plan was to propose at the end of may while on vacation. I'm kinda running out of time.

Obviously I want the diamond to look great and get the best deal for my hard earned money. I though this diamond looked great on paper, but you guys seem to think otherwise, so now I am worried!

Posted:  5/10/2006 12:16:28 AM
P: 5/10/2006 12:40:40 AM
Creamyitalian
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I'm still confused as to what makes this a not so good diamond. What makes the proportion grade 3? All the other numbers look good, although the range on the pavilion seems off? What could be responsible for this not being great?

Posted:  5/10/2006 12:40:40 AM
P: 5/10/2006 12:47:37 AM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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It will be a great looking diamond.

I would challenge anyone to pick a diferent stone over it in a line up

Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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http://www.ideal-scope.com and
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Posted:  5/10/2006 12:47:37 AM
P: 5/10/2006 12:52:07 AM
Creamyitalian
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That's good to hear! What I think I need is to see it in person. I have 10 days to look it over so it can't hurt. But I'm glad to hear that it might actually be pretty good. Thanks to everyone for their input so far...keep it coming!

Posted:  5/10/2006 12:52:07 AM
P: 5/10/2006 8:27:12 AM
Wink
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It has minimal leakage (the white in the idealscope), there is a tiny bit extra obcuration in the center and a couple of the arrows are very slightly crooked at the top. Easy for a nit pick or two under all the scopes, but virtually impossible to see with the eye even by a highly trained eye. This will be a very beautiful diasmond and well worthy of your taking a look at it.

When your eyes see this stone they will be very happy.

Wink

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Posted:  5/10/2006 8:27:12 AM
P: 5/10/2006 11:43:58 AM
Creamyitalian
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Thanks for you input wink! It is definitely worth a look.

Posted:  5/10/2006 11:43:58 AM
P: 5/10/2006 4:08:58 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
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Date: 5/10/2006 8:27:12 AM
Author: Wink
It has minimal leakage (the white in the idealscope), there is a tiny bit extra obcuration in the center and a couple of the arrows are very slightly crooked at the top. Easy for a nit pick or two under all the scopes, but virtually impossible to see with the eye even by a highly trained eye. This will be a very beautiful diasmond and well worthy of your taking a look at it.

When your eyes see this stone they will be very happy.

Wink
http://www.uscourts.gov/ttb/nov99ttb/frontpage.jpg

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Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT

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http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  5/10/2006 4:08:58 PM
P: 5/10/2006 4:16:58 PM
sunkist
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Hi Creamy, I wasn't trying to tell you that it wouldn't be a good diamond. Sorry if it sounded like that! I think it will look beautiful and sparkle like crazy. Now if you've got to propose by the end of the month, get crackin'!

Posted:  5/10/2006 4:16:58 PM

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