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 Is this a good quality diamond?
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Is this a good quality diamond? |
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| P: 4/4/2006 12:52:49 PM | |
cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
Hi everyone! This is my first time posting, I've been a longtime lurker drooling over everyone's gorgeous rings! Bf has finally agreed to buy me a ring, and we are on a budget. Can you please help me decide which one of these seems like the best? 1. Certificate GIA 14733704 Cut ROUND BRILLIANT Carat 1.50 Color G Clarity SI1 Measurements 7.17 x 7.27 x 4.5 mm Depth Percentage 62.3 % Table Percentage 58 % Crown Angle Pavilion Percentage % Pavilion Angle Girdle STK-VTK Culet N Polish VERY GOOD Symmetry GOOD Fluorescence NONE Certificate Notes Other Notes Clarity-Enhanced NO 2. Stock number: 29563363 Shape: Round Cut Grade: Ideal Carat weight: 1.50 Color: G Clarity: SI1 Depth %: 62.3 Table %: 58 Symmetry: Good Polish: Very Good Girdle: STK-VTK Culet: N Fluorescence: N Measurements: 7.17x7.27x4.50 Also, what is the difference between a Ideal Cut and a Round Brilliant? Thank you so much for your help!! I'm so excited! =) |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 12:52:49 PM | |
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| P: 4/4/2006 1:07:37 PM | |
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
hey cecgirl welcome to ps. the 'two' diamonds you have posted are actually the same diamond. if you look at the measurements, they are exactly the same. 'ideal' describes how well a rb (round brilliant) is cut. they aren't different shapes. one is the cutting style (rb) and the other described how well it is cut (ideal).
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 1:07:37 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 1:12:20 PM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
that's what i thought might be the case! so, there can be the same diamond posted on different websites at different prices? interesting! thanks for the clarification. do you think this is a good combo or not? the price is approx. $5000 - $5200.
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 1:12:20 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 1:32:02 PM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
articles that may be of interest: http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/12/1/Why-are-there-several-dealers-offering-the-exact-same-stone.aspx http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/32/1/Getting-information--In-stock-diamonds-versus-diamonds-located-with-suppliers.aspx searching for diamonds in virtual inventory can be akin to 'grab bag' shopping. you may be able to find a needle in the haystack, but you need to know what to look for and when you do, it will take much time and effort. you are better off searching by 'cut quality' or 'in house'. diamonds that come up in these searches are high quality and have pertinent information readily available.
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 1:32:02 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 2:54:36 PM | |
Paul-Antwerp Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,912 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/3/2002 |
At that price, the stone must be a horror.
Paul Slegers |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 2:54:36 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 3:16:45 PM | |
stermag Cut Rock Total Posts: 433 Last Post: 4/27/2006 Member Since: 11/26/2005 |
I would expect a price of a stone with those specs to be at or above $10,000 (assuming it's a nice diamond). I don't really like the measurements of this one. Firstly, they seem too small for a 1.5ct round, and secondly ... 0.1mm difference in min vs. max diameter seems significant to me... but maybe I'm just anal. The most shocking thing, however, is the price you quoted... it's nearly half what I would expect. Are you sure this wasn't price per carat? 7-8000 would still be kind of low, but at least believable if the stone is really poor or the inclusion makes it unattractive. ETA: any chance of finding the crown and pavillion angles? |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 3:16:45 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 3:45:31 PM | |
Houseparty Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 1/22/2008 Member Since: 3/7/2006 |
Hi and welcome, I like to help the new people, I was one just a few weeks ago. There is a good deal, and then there is something completely out of line. This stone is offered for $5,000, or about $3,350 per carat. When somethings looks way too good to be true it usually is. This is an error, this stone, GIA 14733704, is Si2 clarity, J color, (not Si1, G). The girdle thickness doesn't help the value either. Best wishes, David
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 3:45:31 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 3:53:11 PM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
Thank everyone so much for your help! You saved us from buying a horrible stone.
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 3:53:11 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 4:09:20 PM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
We have slightly increased our budget and I've searched by cut:
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 4:09:20 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 4:12:51 PM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
gia cert
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 4:12:51 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 4:49:00 PM | |
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belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
yes, that is better. though i think it is really deceptive to label this stone as 'ags ideal cut'. if it were truly ags ideal, it would be sent to ags for the grade instead of gia.
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 4:49:00 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 5:16:11 PM | |
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Houseparty Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 1/22/2008 Member Since: 3/7/2006 |
Hi, So were looking at $5,000 stones in the morning, and $6,800 stones in the afternoon [$$)] This is an exceptional cut diamond with outstanding light performance. It has a VH2 VH3 VH2 BrillianceScope report which would be hard to beat at any price with a 58 facet diamond. This stone is super ideal branded (Good Old Gold) and the price reflects its indisputable top shelf cut. It is an Si2, and the inclusions are clear under magnification. You may want to talk to GOG about its naked eye clarity. They have an impeccible reputation. Sincerely, David
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 5:16:11 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 5:19:53 PM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
I had to beg!  "Hooooooonnnneeeey, do you want me to wear a yucky diamond?"I do like this one, I'll give GOG a call and check. Thanks!
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 5:19:53 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 7:36:42 PM | |
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Houseparty Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 1/22/2008 Member Since: 3/7/2006 |
Hi, Since you are working with GOG, check out the 1.26 Si1 I. The clarity looks much better, and practically there is not much difference between colors. Awesome light performance as well. Plus it is $200 less. The center of the table inclusion on the Si2 may bother me. Even if it were eye clean, it will be clear anytime someone sees it thru a loupe. Easy call for me between the two... David
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 7:36:42 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 9:05:47 PM | |
Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,151 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004 |
I don't think I've ever seen all these numbers with two digits after the decimal point before. Where'd these come from? Is this new from GIA, the King of Rounding???!!! 
And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it! |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 9:05:47 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 9:12:23 PM | |
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Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,151 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004 |
BTW, it scored 1.2 TIC/Ex, Ex, Ex, VG on the HCA. And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it! |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 9:12:23 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 9:30:50 PM | |
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Houseparty Rough Rock Total Posts: 91 Last Post: 1/22/2008 Member Since: 3/7/2006 |
Date: 4/4/2006 7:36:42 PM Author: Houseparty Hi, Since you are working with GOG, check out the 1.26 Si1 I. The clarity looks much better, and practically there is not much difference between colors. Awesome light performance as well. Plus it is $200 less. The center of the table inclusion on the Si2 may bother me. Even if it were eye clean, it will be clear anytime someone sees it thru a loupe. Easy call for me between the two... David Hi, My friend Lynn is on this tread. The 2 digits beyond the decimal point are from Rhino and his sarin machine, not GIA as you say the "king of rounding". Lynn, What do you think about my suggestion from the same vendor (GOG): We value your opinion! 1.26 I SI1 1.5-EX ex-ex-vg-vg 0 H&A 61.55% 54.78% 34.24 40.95 1.17 no ex ex neg 7.00x6.96x4.30 GIA $6852S Ironically, GIA rounds the PA and CA to 41.0 and 34.0, which is the same GIA angles as "my" stone... Sincerely, David
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| Posted: 4/4/2006 9:30:50 PM | |
| P: 4/4/2006 9:49:34 PM | |
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Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,151 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004 |
Date: 4/4/2006 9:30:50 PM Author: Houseparty < Lynn, What do you think about my suggestion from the same vendor (GOG): We value your opinion! 1.26 I SI1 1.5-EX ex-ex-vg-vg 0 H&A 61.55% 54.78% 34.24° 40.95° 1.17 no ex ex neg 7.00x6.96x4.30 GIA $6852S I think it looks VERY GOOD from the numbers and I love the color/clarity combo. I would totally trust the eyes of any of the folks at GOG, too! Good find, David! And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it! |
| Posted: 4/4/2006 9:49:34 PM | |
| P: 4/5/2006 12:06:51 AM | |
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cecgirl Rough Rock Total Posts: 18 Last Post: 11/13/2006 Member Since: 4/4/2006 |
Thanks Lynn, David and Belle! It's amazing how much faster you learn when it comes to actually buying one - today alone I learned more than I have lurking the past few months!
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| Posted: 4/5/2006 12:06:51 AM | |
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