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 Is this a good cut diamond?

P:  2/27/2006 8:57:27 AM  
diamondluv
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Hello everyone and hello to the diamond experts...!
    I recently bought a GIA diamond 1.03 vvs1 F color but i dont know what kind of cut this diamond have.
here are the specs.........
measurements....6.63-6.68 X 3.89
Weight--------------1.03
----Proportions---
Depth---------------58.5%
table-----------------62%
---Finish---
Polish------------ex
Sym.-------------vg

I paid 10,400 after tax........Am i getting a good deal......and what is the cut on this diamond
PLEASE HELP! thankssssssssssss
Posted:  2/27/2006 8:57:27 AM

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P: 2/27/2006 9:04:05 AM
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Date: 2/27/2006 8:57:27 AM
Author:diamondluv
Hello everyone and hello to the diamond experts...!
I recently bought a GIA diamond 1.03 vvs1 F color but i dont know what kind of cut this diamond have.
here are the specs.........
measurements....6.63-6.68 X 3.89
Weight--------------1.03
----Proportions---
Depth---------------58.5%
Girdle----------------62%
---Finish---
Polish------------ex
Sym.-------------vg

I paid 10,400 after tax........Am i getting a good deal......and what is the cut on this diamond
PLEASE HELP! thankssssssssssss


Welcome  The proportions don't make sense - should the depth be the table measurement and the girdle the depth?????  Girdles are normally described as thin to thick etc, look at the cert again I think. If this is indeed the depth, it is a very shallow diamond.  If the girdle measurement is actually the table percentage, then we can tell from this also  it probably isn't an ideal cut.

To answer your question, there isn't enough info to determine cut quality, the crown and pavillion angles are needed if you have them.  If this is $10 USD then the price looks steep even for a VVS.  Check the cert, repost and get the crown and pav angles if you can.









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Posted:  2/27/2006 9:04:05 AM
P: 2/27/2006 9:41:43 AM
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Any chance you can take pictures of it, too? I agree that we need more info, but that table measurement is a little bigger than ideal. But it could still be a nice stone.

Posted:  2/27/2006 9:41:43 AM
P: 2/27/2006 9:46:52 AM
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Sure, it could be a beautiful diamond, diamondluv, if it is a done deal and you can't get the other measurements needed, just relax and enjoy the diamond.  It must have " spoken" to you for you to buy it, it is easy ( we all do it) to second guess a big purchase, but if you love it that's all that matters.  It probably looks much better than most diamonds out there









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Posted:  2/27/2006 9:46:52 AM
P: 2/27/2006 9:55:19 AM
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it's shallow with a big table, which is your average pedestrian fare.  the price is about right for an f/vvs of that size.



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Posted:  2/27/2006 9:55:19 AM
P: 2/27/2006 10:04:11 AM
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The question is, did you buy it recently enough to return it?

If not, please enjoy the diamond and stop analyzing it - you can always find something better if you look long enough, no need to drive yourself crazy.

If you can return it, get those crown and pavillion angles and we can help you decide if you should.

Posted:  2/27/2006 10:04:11 AM
P: 2/27/2006 10:16:23 AM
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lol choochoo...we don't need the crown/pavilion angles to decide.  it has a 62% table!



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Posted:  2/27/2006 10:16:23 AM
P: 2/27/2006 10:35:27 AM
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Does the price include setting?

It fits the grades and top cut... which this doesn't sound like, at least by the criteria that claim a premium these days (i.e. official AGSo cut grades and / or H&A).

If there were a choice, VS clarity, best cut and most likely less cost would have been a pretty good alternative, IMO.

Anyway, maybe the two numbers given don't sound too reassuring, but this doesn't make the diamond a monster. It could be darn close to the top if (very) lucky.  saying this... because for a small range of angles the 58-ish depth and 62 tables gets in the AGS1 cut grade range making some cute looking stones!   Now, I have no reason to believe this is precisely what happened to the stone you have. In fact, I suspect that those lucky proportions are not the most economical to cut and the chance of their happening w/o some kind of cut grading attesting the special merit of the stone are quite slim   

Edited to add:  I am not quite sure of this, but for the 'good' proportions mentioned the diameter should have been smaller, as much as I can tell. Hard to guess, because there are quite a few factors at play that could well account for give or take a tenth of a millimeter. It wouldn't show as a material size difference, but if the proportions are way off...  the compromised brilliance should show at some point.

Is there an H&A viewer or IdealScope in the house?

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Posted:  2/27/2006 10:35:27 AM
P: 2/27/2006 12:47:04 PM
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We know it's not an ideal diamond, but it could be one of those rare good performing non-ideal diamonds, and that's why I wanted the crown/pav angles. I've seen a diamond with almost 60/60 proportions that scored very well on the HCA b/c of its total combination of numbers.

Posted:  2/27/2006 12:47:04 PM
P: 2/27/2006 1:01:05 PM
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Btw. What is the date on the GIA lab report?   If it is recent enough, it should either have proportions mentioned, or you could retrieve them from a webpage


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Posted:  2/27/2006 1:01:05 PM
P: 2/27/2006 8:11:56 PM
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Date: 2/27/2006 10:16:23 AM
Author: belle
lol choochoo...we don't need the crown/pavilion angles to decide. it has a 62% table!
belle
no.....he/she said 62% girdle imagine a stone with 62% girdle. where's Kaleigh? our girdle expert.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  2/27/2006 8:11:56 PM
P: 3/2/2006 5:14:38 AM
diamondluv
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Sorry I meant table 62% and girdle is med. this stone is 2 years old so it doesnt have the crown prov. So, can we determine if this is a GOOD stone?

Posted:  3/2/2006 5:14:38 AM
P: 3/2/2006 7:42:29 AM
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It's a "good stone" if you enjoy wearing it. There's no sense in looking back, KWIM?

Since you want to know, 10K seems very steep especially if that's what you paid 2 years ago, if that is what you are asking.

Posted:  3/2/2006 7:42:29 AM

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