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 Is this a fair price?

P:  12/24/2002 3:46:18 PM  
wwmnb
wwmnb

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I found the following stone at a quote of $9,000

1.27 carats
F color
VS2
6.68x6.91x4.34
56% table
62.9% depth

It was shown to me as an "ideal cut," but I'm not sure if it really is. Does it seem to deep? And what about the fact that there is such a wide differentiation in the diameter sizes?

 


Posted:  12/24/2002 3:46:18 PM

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P: 12/24/2002 3:56:03 PM
golfer
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Price is kinda high. Search pricescope.

Posted:  12/24/2002 3:56:03 PM
P: 12/24/2002 4:06:44 PM
DiamondOptics.com
DiamondOptics.com

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Hi ww...


Assuming that this cut is a round brilliant.
The difference between these measurement are
significant.

The depth of this diamond just slips
above the AGS ideal maximum which is
62.8% depth.

I believe that if you are looking for
an ideal cut you could do much better
with the measurements and price.

Buy Informed!
&
Happy Holidays!

Kirk

Posted:  12/24/2002 4:06:44 PM
P: 12/26/2002 2:20:00 AM
Rhino
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Forgive my ignorance Kirk but when did AGS start taking total depth % into account?

Hope you had a Merry Christmas bro.

Jonathan

Rhino
Good Old Gold

Posted:  12/26/2002 2:20:00 AM
P: 12/26/2002 3:06:55 AM
DiamondOptics.com
DiamondOptics.com

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Hi Jonathan,


According to the American Gem Society - AGS, in order for a diamond to qualify with ideal proportions the table must be 53–57% and the depth must range for 60 – 62.8%

Quote: Whiteflash.com

http://www.whiteflash.com/acut/cut.asp



Kirk

Posted:  12/26/2002 3:06:55 AM
P: 12/26/2002 3:28:52 AM
Rhino
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While I think the world of WhiteFlash ... can you show me this in AGS nomenclature? The reason I ask is because I've read as much as I believe there is to read regarding what constitutes the AGS "0" grade for cut and have NEVER seen this before. I can point you to AGS Reports themselves that say otherwise. That is why I was questioning your source.

To my knowledge, insofar as proportions are concerned, the factors that make for ideal proportions I'll take directly from our site here ... http://www.goodoldgold.com/ideal_cut_diamonds.htm

"The following chart is a breakdown of what makes the stone the proportion cut grade that it is....

Ideal cut. Grade of "0"

crown angles 33.7° - 35.8°
pavilion depth 42.2 - 43.8%
table size 52.4 - 57.5%
culet pointed or none, very small, small or medium
girdle thin, medium or slightly thick"

To my knowledge there is no mention of ideal total depth %.

Peace,
Rhino

Rhino
Good Old Gold

Posted:  12/26/2002 3:28:52 AM
P: 12/26/2002 8:11:24 PM
wwmnb
wwmnb

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Thanks all for your input.

We ended up finding a better stone that we have decided to get. Here are the specs:

1.37 carats
F color
VS 1
56% table
60.2% depth
thin to slightly thick girdle
no flourescence
no culet
good polish
very good symmetry
In addition, it is GIA certified with a laser inscription. The price we are paying is $8,600. A better price for a better stone!

Posted:  12/26/2002 8:11:24 PM
P: 12/26/2002 10:10:01 PM
diamondsman
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What are the top measurements of the stone?

I think you are getting a good deal, go for it!

good luck
diamondsman

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Posted:  12/26/2002 10:10:01 PM
P: 12/27/2002 1:32:31 AM
wwmnb
wwmnb

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Oops, I knew I forgot something!

7.18 x 7.25 x 4.34

Posted:  12/27/2002 1:32:31 AM
P: 12/27/2002 8:18:06 AM
diamondsman
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the numbers look right! if they are what you wrote here ,go for it.Just make sure it is VS1 and not VS2


good luck
diamondsman

Diamondsman

buydiamonddirect.com

Posted:  12/27/2002 8:18:06 AM

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