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 please help compare these princess cuts i have seen various places

P:  12/23/2002 11:46:44 PM  
devil ray
devil ray

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I know that this is not nearly enough information, but could someone give me their rough thoughts on the following:

Princess Cut

1.05
VS2 G
5.26 x 5.87 x 4.05
G sym/vg polish
crown angle 46.7
crown height 13
pavil angle 56
pavil depth 60.7
table size 72.4
total depth 76.9
$4575

1.01
VS2 E
5.36 x 5.76 x 3.84
g sym vg polish
crown angle 44.8
crown height 13.3
pavil angle 57.1
pavil depth 54.6
table size 67.5
total depth 71.6
$5018

1.03
VS2 G
5.89 x 5.70 x 3.82
sym vg pol vg
depth 67
table 64
girdle vtn-tn

time is of the essence...thanks.



Posted:  12/23/2002 11:46:44 PM

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P: 12/23/2002 11:47:54 PM
devil ray
devil ray

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oh, the last one is $4839....

is there any possibility of online sites dropping their price a few hundred dollars? I have been inside stores, but not sure about on-line...thanks.

Posted:  12/23/2002 11:47:54 PM
P: 12/24/2002 2:17:42 AM
DiamondOptics.com
DiamondOptics.com

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Hi D,


I wish that there was an easy answer to your
question regarding the three of these stones,
but my answer would only give you a partial
answer to your question.

Here goes!

There are no idealized measurements for princess
cut diamonds yet.
There are however, a few charts available which some
establishments use to determine cut grades.
These grading systems are and have been subject to critism.
Some have argued that going by the numbers alone is
only 30% indicative as to the predictability of the
beauty of a princess.
Others have determined that the numbers mean absolutely
nothing when attempting to judge a princess cut.
Two Princesses with similar "numbers" can significantly
vary on 'look'.
There are some comparitive tools such as the
brilliance-scope and ideal scope which have provided
visual aids for reccomendation concerning princess cuts.
And many have advised that fancy cuts like the princess
should be examined by an independent appraiser prior
to purchase.
These are just a few current interpretations of how many
individuals perceive the pursuit of the princess cut.
And a final determination would be that the consumer should be the final judge by personally inspecting the stone and making a visual purchase.
In any event, answering your question is not as easy as it seems if you decide to look at this objectively.
As for purchasing online there should be no problem
what-so-ever when dealing with reputable vendors.
Great savings and superior quality can be found if you
know how and where to look for it.

Buy Informed!
&
Happy Holidays!

Kirk

Posted:  12/24/2002 2:17:42 AM
P: 12/24/2002 8:37:05 AM
Richard Sherwood
Richard Sherwood

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Be mindful of Kirk's advice. That said, just to give you some gut instinct direction, I would say I like the sound of the 1.05 the least.

The 1.01 looks good, and although the info on the 1.03 is sketchy, it might be as good or better.

This guidance though is like that of a man groping three women in the dark. Partially reliable, but confirmed only when the lights are switched on.

Rich, GG
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

Posted:  12/24/2002 8:37:05 AM
P: 12/24/2002 1:23:07 PM
RockDoc
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Remember that the princess cut numbers you're looking at are averages....

How close each of the measurements are is critical on how the stone will appear.

Many princess cuts have one quadrant that isn't in sync with the others...

Rockdoc


Bill Leiberum
1948-2007
Thanks for everything and Rest In Peace,Bill.

Posted:  12/24/2002 1:23:07 PM
P: 12/24/2002 4:16:53 PM
lawmax
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On 12/24/2002 8:37:05 AM

This guidance though is like that of a man groping three women in the dark. Partially reliable, but confirmed only when the lights are switched on.

Rich, GG
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory
----------------


LOL!

Posted:  12/24/2002 4:16:53 PM
P: 12/24/2002 7:33:38 PM
devil ray
devil ray

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well, i saw a couple of those diamonds at goodoldgold website. I thought about calling or emailing them but wanted more information first. They seem to have a few that I like and I like the fact there is a lot of information on them, especially because the Princess cut seems to be hard to put a handle on. Anyone else see the rocks there, and might be able to decipher some of the nicer ones in the carat range?

Posted:  12/24/2002 7:33:38 PM
P: 12/24/2002 10:33:30 PM
diamondsman
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If you want a square stone than the third one is the squarest of all three as the top measurements are closer .If it doesnot matter to you that the second one is the best value for the money!
It really is up to you! as these are all nce stones!
As far as negotiating the price,I think you should look at different sites and compare the prices and incentives and see who gives you the best price!

good luck and happy holidays

diamondsman

Diamondsman

buydiamonddirect.com

Posted:  12/24/2002 10:33:30 PM

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