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 2 diamonds w/ cut adviser #'s what does this mean?

P:  1/20/2006 8:27:23 PM  
iveous
iveous

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So I've narrowed my search to these 2. Actually 3 (My budget for the diamond is $4000 maybe a hair more) My priority is THE ABSOLUTE BEST CUT I can get for the money. I want my girl to drop on her ass when she sees this :) (A starnge thing btw, yesterday I put these very same diamond #'s in the cut adviser and I was getting dif #'s. (Has there been any adjustments made to the cut adviser since yesterday? I could have sworn I got a .6 Total visual performance for the 1st stone...)

Stone #1 click

Price: $3,918.00             
Report: GIA
Shape: Round Ideal Cut
Carat: 1.01
Color: J
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 60.3
Table: 56
Crown Angle: 34.7
Crown %: 15.4
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Pavilion %: 43
Girdle: Thin to Medium
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 6.52-6.54X3.94

Cut Adviser:

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Excellent
Total Visual Performance 1.2 - Excellent
within TIC  range


I like this stone a lot and by looking at zoom pic I can see no noticable faults. Is #2 better because it gives a total visual performance of 1 rather than this stone's 1.2? This stone did get an Excellent grade on everything. Stone 2 only got a Very Good in Spread...




Stone 2 click


Item Code: GIA-14814955            
Price: $3,930.00             
Report: GIA
Shape: Round Ideal Cut
Carat: 1.00
Color: J
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 60.9
Table: 56
Crown Angle: 34.6
Crown %: 15.3
Pavilion Angle: 40.7
Pavilion %: 42.9
Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 6.47-6.50X3.95


Cut Adviser:


Light Return       Excellent
Fire                      Excellent
Scintillation         Excellent
Spread                Very Good
 
Total Visual Performance 1 - Excellent
within TIC  range

This stone has a better total Visual Performance but I can see a cloud in the shaft of the arrow at 10 o'clock and another cloud on the tip of the arrow at 5 o'clock. But do the numbers outweigh that?



Stone #3
click

Item Code: AGS-5196910            
Price: $4,271.00             
Report: AGS
Shape: A Cut Above H&A
Carat: 1.017
Color: J
Clarity: SI2
Depth: 60.7
Table: 56
Crown Angle: 35
Crown %: 15.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.9
Pavilion %: 43.1
Girdle: 0.6%-1.2%
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Negligible
Measurements: 6.54-6.57X3.97

Cut Adviser:


Light Return     Excellent
Fire Very          Good
Scintillation       Very Good
Spread            Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1.8 - Excellent
within TIC  range


This one might be a bit past my budget but it IS a H&A. Should this be a deciding factor? I've heard that one can often see the same pattern on WF's ES stones. The ones above seem to have a cut that is even better than this one. Would they not show the same pattern? The total visual performance # on this one isn't as good as the 1st two either.. but since it is below a 2... does it matter? I do see a very noticable fault right smack in the middle of the table face though. It looks as if I may be able to see that with the naked eye but I'm no diamond expert...


Based on these things which of these will be the "knock my gf on her ass diamond"? Please help!


About to make that all important
ENGAGEMENT RING purchase.
Posted:  1/20/2006 8:27:23 PM

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P: 1/20/2006 8:36:57 PM
sunkist
sunkist

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I'm not an expert at all, but from the looks of it, I'd choose #1! It looks the best cut to me, plus it's the cheapest of the 3 So great stone all around.

And what a sweet BF to want to blow her away You're the best!

Posted:  1/20/2006 8:36:57 PM
P: 1/20/2006 9:01:47 PM
iveous
iveous

Rough Rock
Total Posts: 15
Last Post: 2/28/2006
Member Since: 1/18/2006
 
I know... option 1 looks good. I guess I just want some experts to hold my hand and tell me "that one grasshopper, I am certain of this because XXXXXX"... or at least "not that one!" lol

Since the day I've decided I want to spend the rest of my life with her... I really have not been able to stop thinking about her and how she deserves the BEST ...(the best I can afford...) Since I'm new at this I need some reinforcement.

If $$$ were not an issue between these 3... which one would you get and why?

About to make that all important
ENGAGEMENT RING purchase.

Posted:  1/20/2006 9:01:47 PM
P: 1/20/2006 9:40:36 PM
Mara
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If you'd like 'experts to hold your hand' (hehe), you should probably call the experts at WF who have the stones in-house and ask them what they think since they can see the stones side by side!

Numbers are just that, numbers, they do help you narrow down the selection from say 10 to 3 but now that you are at that point, I'd use their eyes as yours...good luck! I'm sure they all will be beautiful, but I have had great luck with buying SI's and similar from WF so you're in good hands!

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Posted:  1/20/2006 9:40:36 PM
P: 1/20/2006 11:09:27 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut)
Garry H (Cut Nut)

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Mara is right

Also HCA is for rejection
You are wrongly trying to use it for selection

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http://www.ideal-scope.com and
http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au

Posted:  1/20/2006 11:09:27 PM
P: 1/20/2006 11:32:05 PM
Kaleigh
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Date: 1/20/2006 9:40:36 PM
Author: Mara
If you'd like 'experts to hold your hand' (hehe), you should probably call the experts at WF who have the stones in-house and ask them what they think since they can see the stones side by side!

Numbers are just that, numbers, they do help you narrow down the selection from say 10 to 3 but now that you are at that point, I'd use their eyes as yours...good luck! I'm sure they all will be beautiful, but I have had great luck with buying SI's and similar from WF so you're in good hands!
Yes I agree.  Have them eye ball all 3.   You can't go wrong with any of them.  But I would want them to be my eyes and give me their expert advice.  They are extremely honest and very reliable.  Good luck!!!

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Posted:  1/20/2006 11:32:05 PM

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