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 Can you help me pick out a Radiant stone?

P:  1/8/2006 11:36:18 PM  
sparkles31
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HELP!!  My boyfriend and I are looking for a loose radiant shape stone for our engagement.  We have gone to a few jewelry stores but have decided to buy the stone online.  We are looking for something along the lines of the following:

Shape: radiant
Carat: 1.7-2.0
Color: H - I (open to suggestions)
Clarity: SI1 - SI2, must be eye-clean (open to suggestions)

As far as depth, table, crown, measurements etc., I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO LOOK FOR.  I have read other postings regarding the details to look for but I am still a tad bit confused. 

Can anyone here help us pick out some stones??????  Links???

Thanks all - I really appreciate it  


Posted:  1/8/2006 11:36:18 PM

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P: 1/8/2006 11:54:32 PM
belle
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hey sparkles  welcome to ps and congratulations on the engagement!
for a fancy shape like a radiant, you are going to have to have a stone (or three) brought in.  that means a vendor will have the stone of your choosing shipped to them, and subsequently you, to look at.  finding a good vendor is key.  they will know what to look for and can narrow the search very quickly for you.  there are several reputable vendors here on ps.  i have personally dealt with www.whiteflash.com  and can recommend them highly.  best of luck!



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Posted:  1/8/2006 11:54:32 PM
P: 1/9/2006 12:02:24 AM
sparkles31
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Thanks!  I was actually looking at Whiteflash.  Below is one of the radiants we are looking at on that site.  Are we on the right track?


Price: $8,078.00            
Report: EGL
Shape: Radiant
Carat: 2.00
Color: H
Clarity: SI2
Depth: 73.2
Table: 71
Girdle: M-
Polish: Good
Symmetry: Good
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 7.12-6.82X4.99
Length/Width: 1.04

Posted:  1/9/2006 12:02:24 AM
P: 1/9/2006 12:11:49 AM
belle
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you're welcome
you know that there's a chance that an egl graded 'h' could actually be lower (like i-j) right?  it's not always the case, but just something to be aware of.
as far as the numbers go, i would check out dave atlas' site www.gemappraisers.com in the left hand column click on 'old aga cut grade charts and rules' and then select radiant from the drop down menu.  you will find some good guidelines there.



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Posted:  1/9/2006 12:11:49 AM
P: 1/9/2006 12:14:08 AM
sparkles31
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Ok here are a few more that I need input on, which would you choose?:

                        #1                            #2                        #3                    #4

 Shape               Radiant                   Radiant                   Radiant               Radiant 
 Carat                   2                           1.7                       1.71                   1.72 
 Color                   H                           G                           G                       I 
 Clarity                 SI2                        SI2                         SI2                     SI1 
 Measurements   7.12-6.82X4.99    6.68-6.64X4.62     6.96-6.70X4.42         7.07-6.92X4.44 
 Table %               71                         66                        69                        75 
 Depth %             73.2                      69.6                       66                       64.2 
 Polish                   Good                   Excellent           Very Good               Very Good 
 Symmetry           Good                       Good                   Good                   Good 
 Girdle                   M-                           TK                   STK-TK F               M-TK 
 Culet                   None                       None                   None                   None 
 Fluorescence           No                       No                       No                       No 
 Certificate             EGL                         GIA                     GIA                     GIA 

Posted:  1/9/2006 12:14:08 AM
P: 1/9/2006 12:16:57 AM
sparkles31
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Date: 1/9/2006 12:11:49 AM
Author: belle
you're welcome
you know that there's a chance that an egl graded 'h' could actually be lower (like i-j) right? it's not always the case, but just something to be aware of.
as far as the numbers go, i would check out dave atlas' site www.gemappraisers.com in the left hand column click on 'old aga cut grade charts and rules' and then select radiant from the drop down menu. you will find some good guidelines there.


I did not know that.  I will check out that website. THANKSSSS, I would be lost without this website!

Posted:  1/9/2006 12:16:57 AM
P: 1/9/2006 5:04:15 AM
Dani
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Hello, welcome to PS!!!

If there is one thing I have learned here, it is not to simply look at numbers when judging a stone.  You need to see them with your own eyes- they are the best judges.

Hopefully one of the radiant experts like Nicrez or David (from Diamonds by Lauren) will chime in here. But Belle is right, EGL grading is much different than GIA, just be aware of that...

Good luck!

Posted:  1/9/2006 5:04:15 AM
P: 1/9/2006 5:46:08 AM
Lorelei
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I completely agree that with Radiants it is best to evaluate them by the eyes and use the numbers as a starting point.  With the EGL grading, it is possible that the grading may be higher than the diamond deserves but also you might find one that is accurate via appraisal etc and find a bargain!









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Posted:  1/9/2006 5:46:08 AM
P: 1/9/2006 8:42:05 AM
IslandDreams
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You really need to see a radiant to judge it  Two radiants with the same l/w & depth numbers can look completely different.  I have a radiant e-ring and I was amazed at how different radiants could look.  That being said, I'd be tempted to bring in #2 and #3 if they are eye clean.  I found that I could see inclusions more easily in the radiants than in the rounds.  I was also more color sensitive in the radiants.

What type of setting are you considering? 

Posted:  1/9/2006 8:42:05 AM
P: 1/9/2006 10:49:04 AM
sparkles31
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Date: 1/9/2006 8:42:05 AM
Author: IslandDreams
You really need to see a radiant to judge it Two radiants with the same l/w & depth numbers can look completely different. I have a radiant e-ring and I was amazed at how different radiants could look. That being said, I'd be tempted to bring in #2 and #3 if they are eye clean. I found that I could see inclusions more easily in the radiants than in the rounds. I was also more color sensitive in the radiants.

What type of setting are you considering?

When you say "bring in an e-ring," do you mean order it and then return it?  Is there a place where you can actually go see e-rings or do you just talk to a rep?

I was looking at micro pave settings.

Posted:  1/9/2006 10:49:04 AM

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