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recommendations on fabricating a custom diamond bracelet?

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P: 11/23/2005 2:30:29 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	so if the links are to be approx 1" to 1 1/4" in length is the thinner one too thin?
Posted: 11/23/2005 2:30:29 PM

P: 11/23/2005 7:20:46 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/23/2005 2:30:29 PM Author: windowshopper so if the links are to be approx 1' to 1 1/4' in length is the thinner one too thin? Not if you like it and it is made to hold together... Yesterday I used a ring's picture to guess relative sizes in the previous picture. And... had to see what would happen if links were made in the likeness of the respective ring, since all it takes is a couple of cut&paste. Here's the thing below. These links look borderline thin to me, but some extreme proportions would be appealing too. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/23/2005 7:20:46 PM

P: 11/23/2005 9:10:38 PM
Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000	good job Val, ever thought of ditching economics? Pricescope
Posted: 11/23/2005 9:10:38 PM

P: 11/23/2005 9:15:34 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,918 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	I keep telling her that over and over. Nice job Ana ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 11/23/2005 9:15:34 PM

P: 11/24/2005 1:21:38 AM
Wink Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,032 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 5/4/2001	That is a good job Ana, I hope my bench does at least that good. No guesses from me on price, I will leave that to my bench to tell me. It will not be cheap, but it will be an incredible piece if we are allowed to make it! Wink P.S. Thanks to you all who gave me such an unequivocable endorsement. It makes me feel quite humble this Thanksgiving Eve! Wink Jones GG Winfield's/High Performance Diamonds
Posted: 11/24/2005 1:21:38 AM

P: 11/24/2005 1:38:13 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/23/2005 9:10:38 PM Author: Pricescope good job Val, ever thought of ditching economics? Noo... But I promise to make a portfolio of jewelry drawings online for fun... one day... if you guys find it amusing... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 1:38:13 AM

P: 11/24/2005 10:19:01 AM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	Ana: Thanks for the visual................one thing i was wondering about. dont know if this look or technique I want has a name..............normally when the diamonds are set into the channel and bead set, the top of the piece is flat. meaning if you were to look at the link from a side view the table of the diamonds is flush with edge of the channel. The piece i fell in love with was more rounded...............meaning that tops of the diamonds protruded a bit more so that the top of the link was rounded and more 3 dimensional than flat...........help i am at loss for words describing the effect
Posted: 11/24/2005 10:19:01 AM

P: 11/24/2005 3:13:19 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/24/2005 10:19:01 AM Author: windowshopper ... normally when the diamonds are set into the channel and bead set, the top of the piece is flat. meaning if you were to look at the link from a side view the table of the diamonds is flush with edge of the channel. The piece i fell in love with was more rounded...............meaning that tops of the diamonds protruded a bit more so that the top of the link was rounded and more 3 dimensional than flat. I wouldn't know to put it otherwise. Pave or bead set by any other name is also done on curved surfaces - even the usual ring shank around here is not straight. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:13:19 PM

P: 11/24/2005 3:23:42 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	given the curved design of the oval links of my "model" would it appear that way aotomatically?
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:23:42 PM

P: 11/24/2005 3:51:52 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/24/2005 3:23:42 PM Author: windowshopper given the curved design of the oval links of my 'model' would it appear that way aotomatically? I would think so... if you ask specifically for it it can't hurt... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 3:51:52 PM

P: 11/24/2005 9:14:09 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	Date: 11/24/2005 3:51:52 PM Author: valeria101 Date: 11/24/2005 3:23:42 PM Author: windowshopper given the curved design of the oval links of my 'model' would it appear that way aotomatically? I would think so... if you ask specifically for it it can't hurt... is there a risk to that or any downside........
Posted: 11/24/2005 9:14:09 PM

P: 11/24/2005 9:40:33 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/24/2005 9:14:09 PM Author: windowshopper Date: 11/24/2005 3:51:52 PM Author: valeria101 Date: 11/24/2005 3:23:42 PM Author: windowshopper given the curved design of the oval links of my 'model' would it appear that way aotomatically? I would think so... if you ask specifically for it it can't hurt... is there a risk to that or any downside........ Not that I can imagine right now... the curved should fit better on the wrist than flat links. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 9:40:33 PM

P: 11/24/2005 9:41:42 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	no-i mean any risk to the diamonds protruding a bit
Posted: 11/24/2005 9:41:42 PM

P: 11/24/2005 9:50:24 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/24/2005 9:41:42 PM Author: windowshopper no-i mean any risk to the diamonds protruding a bit Yeah... but they so small and flush with the metal... and between milgrain edges (right?). I doubt that would happen. Maybe if someone would bend a paved piece the diamonds on the resulting edge will come up (and out), but as is, they'll be set level with the already shaped metal. It takes a big push to chip them on the table. The edges will be protected. Anyway. It may be that the jeweler could advice otherwise. I just can't see those diamonds getting damaged. Otherwise, diamond bangles should have the same problem - and they don't. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 9:50:24 PM

P: 11/24/2005 9:52:10 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Will the bracelet be large relative to the wrist so that the bottom part falld onto the table (or keyboard) ? Some like bracelets loose like that... and any get worn more that way. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 9:52:10 PM

P: 11/24/2005 10:17:41 PM
crafftygrrl Cut Rock Total Posts: 463 Last Post: 4/23/2006 Member Since: 2/14/2005	Windowshopper, Is this close to what you are looking for? It's platinum/diamond designed by Paul Morelli. The length of the bracelet is 6 3/4 inches. The craftsmanship is impeccable. The clasp is hidden in one of the vertical links.
Posted: 11/24/2005 10:17:41 PM

P: 11/24/2005 10:39:35 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	yes craftygirl it is close..................any chance for a close up???????????
Posted: 11/24/2005 10:39:35 PM

P: 11/24/2005 10:41:12 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/24/2005 10:17:41 PM Author: crafftygrrl Windowshopper, Is this close to what you are looking for? It's platinum/diamond designed by Paul Morelli. The length of the bracelet is 6 3/4 inches. The craftsmanship is impeccable. The clasp is hidden in one of the vertical links. Just a quick one - you have the real thing... is THIS anything close ? I love the thing on your hand and a quick search turned this out. I don't think I have seen the brand outside the US... so that is the only way for me to see them Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/24/2005 10:41:12 PM

P: 11/24/2005 11:01:38 PM
crafftygrrl Cut Rock Total Posts: 463 Last Post: 4/23/2006 Member Since: 2/14/2005	This is the best my camera can do (or at least what I can make my camera do.) BTW, once you're bracelet is completed. you will LOVE IT!!!!! It's one of my favorite pieces.
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:01:38 PM

P: 11/24/2005 11:11:03 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,918 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	That's a great shot Claudia, I adore your bracelet. WS, that only more oval is what you are looking for?? ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:11:03 PM

P: 11/24/2005 11:13:19 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	Date: 11/24/2005 11:11:03 PM Author: kaleigh That's a great shot Claudia, I adore your bracelet. WS, that only more oval is what you are looking for?? well no............i want ovals but claudia's is actually all-over prong set it would appear.........i want just one row of bead set diamonds forming the ovals
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:13:19 PM

P: 11/25/2005 9:23:47 AM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	Ana, claudia, kaleigh....................etc --check out this ebay auction (i dont know how to create a link) Item number: 6577817303. What do you think? Sort of a modified version of what I want.
Posted: 11/25/2005 9:23:47 AM

P: 11/25/2005 11:11:46 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Is this it? LINK Description: "Art Deco Platinum and Diamond Cocktail Bracelet Circa 1930 The flexible mount set with two hundred and forty round old European-cut diamonds weighing approximately 6.25 carats. Length: 7-1/2 in (19.1 cm) Width: 1/2 in (1.25 cm)" I think they mean single cut - which IMO, in that size (average 2.3 pts) is better than full cut. At most a couple of the tiny diamonds do not appear to 'catch light' as much - which tells me they are fine cut. A new piece will not have the patina, would have full cut melee of predictable grades and ... oval links only of course. I would not jump to conclusions that a new piece will be substantially better made - if this one has some terrible flaws, I can't make them out. Another thing I can't figure out in the picture is the clasp - hopefully it is something contained in the design, not a clashing finding of sorts. If the 5k high estimate is better or worse that only you know at this point Lastly, does the size fit? This is pretty much all that comes to mind. There are nice things in the rest of the auction to ;) Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/25/2005 11:11:46 AM

P: 11/25/2005 10:12:59 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	Date: 11/25/2005 11:11:46 AM Author: valeria101 Is this it? LINK Description: 'Art Deco Platinum and Diamond Cocktail Bracelet Circa 1930 The flexible mount set with two hundred and forty round old European-cut diamonds weighing approximately 6.25 carats. Length: 7-1/2 in (19.1 cm) Width: 1/2 in (1.25 cm)' I think they mean single cut - which IMO, in that size (average 2.3 pts) is better than full cut. At most a couple of the tiny diamonds do not appear to 'catch light' as much - which tells me they are fine cut. A new piece will not have the patina, would have full cut melee of predictable grades and ... oval links only of course. I would not jump to conclusions that a new piece will be substantially better made - if this one has some terrible flaws, I can't make them out. Another thing I can't figure out in the picture is the clasp - hopefully it is something contained in the design, not a clashing finding of sorts. If the 5k high estimate is better or worse that only you know at this point Lastly, does the size fit? This is pretty much all that comes to mind. There are nice things in the rest of the auction to ;) they dont look like single cuts??????????????
Posted: 11/25/2005 10:12:59 PM

P: 11/26/2005 12:38:07 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/25/2005 10:12:59 PM Author: windowshopper they dont look like single cuts?????????????? I just see some white patches in the picture - the description of 'old European cut' melee made me wonder because it is not usual. About how single cut pave looks in a picture - from a slight distance (like above) I cannot tell much. See below: Link to modern single cut ring I trully didn't mean to turn you away from the auction - the vintage piece looks great to me. Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/26/2005 12:38:07 AM

P: 12/4/2005 10:11:35 PM
crafftygrrl Cut Rock Total Posts: 463 Last Post: 4/23/2006 Member Since: 2/14/2005	Windowshopper, Here are the close ups of the Morelli stamp. I hope this works out for you. It's a FABULOUS bracelet and deal.
Posted: 12/4/2005 10:11:35 PM

P: 12/4/2005 10:12:12 PM
crafftygrrl Cut Rock Total Posts: 463 Last Post: 4/23/2006 Member Since: 2/14/2005	Here's the 2nd.
Posted: 12/4/2005 10:12:12 PM

P: 12/4/2005 11:56:03 PM
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004	thanks!
Posted: 12/4/2005 11:56:03 PM

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