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Conversation with a Shane Company employee

P: 11/15/2005 5:49:53 PM
erindy Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 11/15/2005 Member Since: 11/15/2005	I recently had a conversation with an online helper from the Shane Company that you all might find interesting. me: could you tell me more about your in house grading system? Dustin: I know that neither of those diamonds will have a grading lab cert. Our cert'd diamonds will be over half a carat in weight. Dustin: Our in house grading system is proprietary to the Shane Company/ Dustin: It's a rated system, similar to how AGS grades there cut. AGS uses a scale of 1 -10 Dustin: their cut Dustin: Because there is no standard to do so, companies will use their own method to grade. Dustin: What one company will call an "Ideal" most likely is not what another company considers "ideal" ME: how do you assign those numbers. do you have a range of percentages that equal a 1, etc. Dustin: Cut grades are based on a number of dimensions. Table size, crown angle, girdle thickness, pavilion depth, culet size, symmetry, etc. ME: so what are the maximum and minimum table sizes, crown angles, girdle thickness, pavilion depth, culet size symmetry, etc for a #2 class from you guys Dustin: I do not have that information. That is all done by our diamond graders. ME: is there any way that I could get that information. Dustin: No, I'm sorry I would not have that information for you. ME: You couldn't get it from your home office, or from the graders. ME: I could wait for an email. Dustin: No, it's a proprietary system. I can not give out that information. ME: Thank you, good bye. Dustin: Was there any other questions I could answer for you? Does this seem normal for you guys? Do most companies keep their grading system confedential?* The one
Posted: 11/15/2005 5:49:53 PM

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P: 11/15/2005 6:10:27 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Some do, some not. Those left out in the open must be widely accepted comparison from buyers and stand criticism from peers ... just like any bit of public information. This doesn't sound easy at all. Just my 0.2 Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/15/2005 6:10:27 PM

P: 11/15/2005 6:13:41 PM
recran Rough Rock Total Posts: 83 Last Post: 2/12/2006 Member Since: 4/14/2005	Whoa. That's BIZARRE to me. I wouldn't buy from 'em.
Posted: 11/15/2005 6:13:41 PM

P: 11/15/2005 7:34:06 PM
Jelly Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,476 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/20/2005	It seems if they had good numbers, they'd want to show them off to the educated buyer. With keeping them a secret, it seems like they have something to hide. Interesting conversation, thanks for sharing!
Posted: 11/15/2005 7:34:06 PM

P: 11/15/2005 7:43:49 PM
diamondsbylauren Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,128 Last Post: 1/5/2006 Member Since: 10/18/2003	There's really not a lot of major sellers that have specific grades for cut which are meaningful to those in the business- mainly because the companies that subscribe to "cut grading" are usually using AGS as a benchmark. This sounds more like a salesman doing his thing- bluffing around substantive answers he can't provide. There's a lot of pressure to sell- a consumer that has some knowledge is really nightmare for such a seller David
Posted: 11/15/2005 7:43:49 PM

P: 11/16/2005 9:55:32 AM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Date: 11/15/2005 7:43:49 PM Author: diamondsbylauren This sounds more like a salesman doing his thing- bluffing around substantive answers he can't provide. Eringdy, you can always find a salesman ready to swamp your questions with cut technicals... As David says, there's allot of pressure to sell, and that's mostly what you will hear when asking about merchandise anywhere, sure enough... Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 11/16/2005 9:55:32 AM

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