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 Emerald Cut Specs Any Opinions?

P:  11/8/2005 3:50:14 PM  
Wendi
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The Following are the GIA specs for a stone I am considering I am still so new at this so other than the cut color and clarity grade everything is still a little foreign any help would be appreciated

Emerald Cut
1.5 carat
6.95 x 5.77 x 4.07 mm
VS2
F
Depth 70.5
Table 71%
Girdle: Extremly Thin to Slightly Thin
Polish: Good
Flourescence: None

 


Posted:  11/8/2005 3:50:14 PM

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P: 11/8/2005 4:03:36 PM
AChiOAlumna
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Have you actually seen the EC stone?? How does it look to you??

I would be concerned with 3 things, but if your eyes tell you different, then go with your eyes:

The Depth....seems a bit deep for me...may make your stone look smaller.
The Table....also seems a bit large for me...could make the stone look "glassy."
The Girdle...depending on where it's "extremely thin," the girdle may be prone to chipping, especially if it's on the edge.

HTH!!!

Posted:  11/8/2005 4:03:36 PM
P: 11/8/2005 4:07:50 PM
Wendi
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I have seen the stone and I think it is beautiful and the independant appraiser I brought in agreed but the numbers seemed off when I compared them to the charts I found here. It makes me a little hesitant.

Posted:  11/8/2005 4:07:50 PM
P: 11/8/2005 4:11:21 PM
AChiOAlumna
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Wendi, if you've seen the stone and it's "speaking" to you, then don't get hung up on the numbers. I would find out from the appraiser where the "extremely thin" part of the girdle is located on the stone. If it's on the edge, you may want to find out the likelihood of chipping in it's setting....if everything else about the stone feels right to you, then at least check out this one characteristic and save yourself some heartache...

Good luck!

Posted:  11/8/2005 4:11:21 PM
P: 11/8/2005 10:26:55 PM
windowshopper
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Date: 11/8/2005 3:50:14 PM
Author:Wendi
The Following are the GIA specs for a stone I am considering I am still so new at this so other than the cut color and clarity grade everything is still a little foreign any help would be appreciated

Emerald Cut
1.5 carat
6.95 x 5.77 x 4.07 mm
VS2
F
Depth 70.5
Table 71%
Girdle: Extremly Thin to Slightly Thin
Polish: Good
Flourescence: None
the specs on your stone are not very good--and i am sorry but i get so irritated when people say (no offense truly but hear me out....) if it speaks to you then get it................i bought two seriously bad stones becasue I knew nothing and they all look great when they are cleaned and polished under hot brilliant light.  YES they ALL do!   your appraiser saying its beautifuul is meaningless as well.  Most appraisers are not worth rock salt as they dont give you a true thumbs up or thumbs down--in the sense that this is good all round--search for a stone with good specs ALL AROUND.  Make sure its from somewhere reputable with a good trade in policy and then look at it and decide to buy it.

Posted:  11/8/2005 10:26:55 PM
P: 11/9/2005 12:40:02 AM
valeria101
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I would rather agree with Windowshopper - it is always better to see a few stones with different cuts. If you have been through this already and decided that this is it for you, than why not. I haven't seen it after all.

Just one thing: size (diameter, not weight) shows even in those scarce numbers. If you run a search for 1.5-1.6cts emerald cut diamonds in the database here (there are others on the net as well) you would see that many 1.5cts ECs are larger, some significantly so. It might be that your stone has been discounted for the apparently small size, but the respective detraction may not be that severe after all. Just IMO, again. Anything regarding this stone remains your decision, of course.

At this point you have the advantage to have seen this diamond. Without pictures, I can't really tell anything about its looks aside size and a rather wild guess for the rest.


Here's an example of what I am trying to describe:

The size of yours:       6.95 x 5.77 x 4.07 mm

And some larger 1.5 cts:    8.09 x 5.58 x 3.7 mm  (LINK)

                                      8.24 x 5.54 x 3.51 mm (LINK)

                                      8.48 x 5.42 x 3.49 mm (LINK)

                     these are 'longer' than your initial choice.
                     If you would rather have a more 'box-like' squarish shape, here's a couple:

                                     7.77 x 5.75 x 3.69 mm (LINK)

                                     7.40 x 6.31 x 4.13 mm (LINK)


Each of these are listed by multiple sellers etc. I am not trying to advertise a certain shop... Since these are on suppliers' lists for now, it may be the case that your local shop can get one as well. Perhaps they'd rather sell a stone that is 'in house' but there is allot more out there anyway.

Choice can't be bad...



The drawing below shows only the relative sizes - all other details are not relevant. In theory one can create a virtual model of a dimaond, but I'd need allot more than depth & table for that. With these two numebrs I can't pretend to show how a dimaond looks, unfortunately.

Hope some of this makes sense.




Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/9/2005 12:40:02 AM
P: 11/9/2005 12:51:37 AM
valeria101
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... this is the picture that was meant for the previous post.


 

 

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/9/2005 12:51:37 AM
P: 11/9/2005 12:56:28 AM
windowshopper
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Date: 11/9/2005 12:51:37 AM
Author: valeria101
... this is the picture that was meant for the previous post.

ana--thanks for the terrific follow up.  i can be rather blunt and i am not technically skilled with the pictures and such.  You often add such nice commentary and pix........................ Also:  I feel that she will be paying a premium for the F VS2 not realizing the substantial discount the rather mediocre cut should demand

Posted:  11/9/2005 12:56:28 AM
P: 11/9/2005 1:11:15 AM
valeria101
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Thanks

Windowshopper, you have some amazing Ec experience yourself!....    


Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  11/9/2005 1:11:15 AM

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