|
|
|
|
| ||
Diamond Jewelry Forums
 Picture Gallery
 Video Gallery
 Journal
|
|||
|
|  Search
|  Posted Today
|  Most Active
|  Help
|
||
 »
Home
»  » Diamond Prices and Grading »
 » RockyTalky
»  » ascher aascher, good to great?
|
| Pages: 1 of 3: [1] 2 3 > |
|
 |
ascher aascher, good to great? |
 |
| P: 10/22/2005 7:55:58 PM | |
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
I've read a considerable number of posts on ascher and aascher and RA and here's where I am... help??!! After searching a number of the recommended sites, and feeling like I have actually gained quite a bit of knowledge from the reading etc that I've done, I am really having a hard time figuring out how to finally make the BEST decision. Are there one or two things that stand out more than others as it comes to deciding on an ascher? And what is the best process for actually buying the stone? Buy it, appraise it, keep or return it??? etc.. The diamond below is interesting, and priced at $14,867 at BN, It's pretty much at the top of my price range... Carat weight: 1.72 Cut: Very Good Color: G Clarity: VVS1 Depth %: 66.6% Table %: 60% Symmetry: Excellent Polish: Excellent Girdle: Very thick Culet: Small Fluorescence: None Measurements: 6.85x6.77x4.51 mm Length/width ratio: 1.01 Is it undreasonable to expect to get better depth, less table and more of a square L-W ration for the same dollar amount, or less???? Hate to ask what probably seems like a stupid question, but I'm close to making a decision, and could use some help? How would you go about this start to finish? Could really use advise, tips, etc... Many thanks in advance. Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 7:55:58 PM | |
|
There are 78 replies to this message. There are 30 replies on this page. |
|
| P: 10/22/2005 8:00:04 PM | |
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,888 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Hi Richard and welcome to PS With asschers the numbers serve as a guideline. You need to see pics of this stone. You can't buy one without seeing pictures. Did BN provide you with actual pics of this stone?? ____________________________ |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:00:04 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:00:27 PM | |
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
hey richardalex the best way to make a decision is to see the stone. square emeralds (asshers) can vary greatly in facet patterning and the looks can be quite different. a picture would be great. you could also have the stone shipped to yourself or an appraiser for inspection.
|
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:00:27 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:13:12 PM | |
cymbrie Cut Rock Total Posts: 347 Last Post: 3/8/2009 Member Since: 10/13/2005 |
Hi Richard...I too am fixated on Asschers. And as kaleigh suggested in my topic on asschers consult with Storm before making any final decisions he is the resident expert! http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?mode=viewtopic&topicID=35026&num=30&pageNo=1 Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character. |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:13:12 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:17:44 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thank you. I haven't asked for a pic yet, however I guess my thought was that I wanted to narrow the number of aschers that I look at and didn't know the BEST place or way to start. Are the numbers and price sufficient to warrant asking for the pic and perhaps to ship and appraise? If I ask to see the ascher pic first, and then (in person) or have it appraised, will I need to purchase it and then return it if necessary. Seems like a $ risk, and in terms of the time it takes to process and receive a refund, and then researching and asking for another one to appraise, then returning that one... etc. Again, maybe dumb questions.....? Regardless, really appreciate your thoughts..! Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:17:44 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:25:03 PM | |
|
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,888 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Take a look at www.goodoldgold.com and see their asschers. I bought my stone from them and can't say enough about them as a vendor, etc...
____________________________ |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:25:03 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:25:58 PM | |
|
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
richard, bn drop ships their diamonds so they wouldn't be able to get a pic for you before hand. you could certainly have the stone shipped to you for inspection but, yes, you will have to pay for it first. there are vendors here that will bring in stones to their facility at your request to be analyzed. you can get a pretty good idea from the pictures and accompanying data whether or not a particular stone would be worth purchasing.
|
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:25:58 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:27:44 PM | |
widget Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,254 Last Post: 12/20/2008 Member Since: 11/12/2004 |
Hi, Richard...welcome! I do hope you check out the thread linked in Cymbrie's post. It has a lot of information, and some GREAT pictures which show just how important photos are....ESPECIALLY when considering asschers! I wouldn't even begin to think about considering ANY asscher without having seen a picture first. I'm sure most vendors would expect this request. Good luck, and have fun!  widget
|
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:27:44 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:34:18 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thanks K I have an e-mail into them and appreciate the suggestion. Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:34:18 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:35:18 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thank you, the post that you forwarded is great! Hope Storm chimes in..!
Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:35:18 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:52:43 PM | |
|
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,888 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Richard, I am sooo glad you are here and Storm will be a huge help to you I'm sure. I have to say again, pictures, pictures, pictures. Ya have to have them in order to make an informed decision. GOG hand picks their asschers and have them in stock. When you see a pic on their website, you are looking at the actual stone, not some sample photo. Jonathon known as Rhino on PS was such a pleasure to work with. ____________________________ |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:52:43 PM | |
| P: 10/22/2005 8:52:56 PM | |
|
cymbrie Cut Rock Total Posts: 347 Last Post: 3/8/2009 Member Since: 10/13/2005 |
The vendors I've heard most frequently recommended on PS esp for Asschers are Good Old Gold, WhiteFlash, NiceIce and Engagementringsdirect.com. I've been trying to learn as much as I can, in fact my fiance and I probably won't be in the market for our Asscher until the new year, but from what I've seen and read Asschers are one of the most difficult cuts of all and the selection would best be left to the experts. Fortunately for you and me we've found PS and I'm sure the "experts" here would be more than happy to help you in your search. You may even be able to get a better stone for less $ consulting with the folks here. Hopefully storm will chime in soon! Oh and when you do find "the stone" send us pix please!  Best of luck in your search do let us know what it yields! Check out the topic I started "For the love of Asschers" Storm linked in all sorts of goodies!http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?mode=viewtopic&topicID=35026&num=30&pageNo=1 Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character. |
| Posted: 10/22/2005 8:52:56 PM | |
| P: 10/23/2005 4:24:32 PM | |
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Id pass on that one there are enough things just so-so from the numbers to call it. You have to get pictures to select an asscher. The advice to work with www.goodoldgold.com or www.whiteflash.com is good advice. When you get picture post them and we can help verify its a good one. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 10/23/2005 4:24:32 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 10:11:34 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thanks all! OK here goes, working on one of three at this point and had to work a bit to get this. Curious as the table proportions are different in the sarin vs the GIA. I was told that the "sarin wasn't set up for an ascher so take the GIA measurement" Is that typical? Anyway..Comments appreciated..here goes.  Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/26/2005 10:11:34 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 10:13:22 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Picture... Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/26/2005 10:13:22 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 10:16:59 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
And sarin...no idealscope available....Really interested in comments. I'm trying to narrow things down to 2 or 3 aschers from which to choose.. Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!  Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/26/2005 10:16:59 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 10:54:30 PM | |
|
widget Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,254 Last Post: 12/20/2008 Member Since: 11/12/2004 |
Oh, Richard...how exciting! It sure looks nice to me, but I'm no expert...just an asscher lover. I'm sure Storm will check in eventually to give you his thoughts. I've just subscribed to this thread so I can follow your journey! Do you have stats, pics, etc on the other two stones you're considering?  widget
|
| Posted: 10/26/2005 10:54:30 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 10:59:50 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thanks Widget! I'm getting the pics etc on the other ones and will post soon. I'm not in an incredible rush to purchase, and I do want to make an educated decision...as well as a passionate one!
Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/26/2005 10:59:50 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 11:35:45 PM | |
|
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Date: 10/26/2005 10:13:22 PM Author: RichardAlex Picture... windmills are 2 small, clipped corners are 2 small and pavilion angles are off. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 10/26/2005 11:35:45 PM | |
| P: 10/26/2005 11:55:11 PM | |
windowshopper Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,023 Last Post: 7/25/2006 Member Since: 7/11/2004 |
Date: 10/26/2005 11:35:45 PM i agree --they are uninspiring
Author: strmrdr Date: 10/26/2005 10:13:22 PM Author: RichardAlex Picture... windmills are 2 small, clipped corners are 2 small and pavilion angles are off.
|
| Posted: 10/26/2005 11:55:11 PM | |
| P: 10/27/2005 12:34:03 AM | |
|
cymbrie Cut Rock Total Posts: 347 Last Post: 3/8/2009 Member Since: 10/13/2005 |
Well Richard I think you came to the right place, Storm won't let you buy anything but the creme de la creme! LOL
Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character. |
| Posted: 10/27/2005 12:34:03 AM | |
| P: 10/27/2005 12:38:26 AM | |
|
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,888 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Richard, get those other pics to us and let's hope they pass the Storm test, or should I say I hope they are Storm worthy. Glad to hear you're not in a rush and want to find the best one.
____________________________ |
| Posted: 10/27/2005 12:38:26 AM | |
| P: 10/27/2005 7:29:18 PM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Thanks all. One of the amazing things for me is that after the time that I've spent in advance on this site, I actually saw some of the same things in advance! More to come!!
Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 10/27/2005 7:29:18 PM | |
| P: 10/27/2005 8:47:54 PM | |
|
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003 |
Date: 10/27/2005 7:29:18 PM Author: RichardAlex Thanks all. One of the amazing things for me is that after the time that I've spent in advance on this site, I actually saw some of the same things in advance! More to come!! :} 
........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K |
| Posted: 10/27/2005 8:47:54 PM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 9:40:10 AM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
I've been looking hard and have come up with another one that seems more promising...! What do you think of this one? Feedback appreciated!! Thanks!!  Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 11/3/2005 9:40:10 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 9:42:51 AM | |
decodelighted Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,625 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 7/27/2005 |
Mmmm ... me likie!
|
| Posted: 11/3/2005 9:42:51 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 9:42:54 AM | |
|
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004 |
very nice pattern! i think it's a winner!
|
| Posted: 11/3/2005 9:42:54 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 9:59:14 AM | |
|
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,888 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004 |
Oh Richard, I love it!!! It has an awesome pattern. How many carats is it???
____________________________ |
| Posted: 11/3/2005 9:59:14 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 10:16:25 AM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
GIA 1.99 ct G VS2 D- 68.1 T-62.9 Polish Ex Sym Ex Girdle Sl Thk Culet none Fl none Sarin attached!  Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 11/3/2005 10:16:25 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 10:17:49 AM | |
|
RichardAlex Rough Rock Total Posts: 28 Last Post: 1/13/2007 Member Since: 10/22/2005 |
Idealscope Richard Alexander |
| Posted: 11/3/2005 10:17:49 AM | |
| P: 11/3/2005 10:41:13 AM | |
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004 |
Wow, my untutored eye thinks it looks great. I would, however, for Strm to chime in. shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter. |
| Posted: 11/3/2005 10:41:13 AM | |
 Previous Page
|
Pages: 1 of 3: [1] 2 3 > |
Next Page 
|
Contact Us | Back Home | Privacy Statement | Forum Agreement | Forum Policies | |
| Ideal BB Version: 0.1.5.4.beta1 | Message forum software powered by the Ideal BB |
| |
Pricescope -
Knowledge -
Diamond Prices -
Tools -
Resources -
About
© 2000-2009 Pricescope. Terms of Use Privacy Policy Disclaimer
forum archives
