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QueenMum

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Member Since: 2/13/2003

Yes, they all are mad about my Asscher.
It's really nice, but it doesn't fit my personality.
So, an upgrade is coming.
Which one would you choose and... why?

Number 1

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1428877.htm

Number 2

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1428875.htm

Stephan

Posted: 8/30/2005 4:40:35 PM

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P: 8/30/2005 4:54:01 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	#1 gets my vote. i'm not so much a size gal, but drool drool drool, i think the 2.5 is just amazing you have divine taste in diamonds! (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 8/30/2005 4:54:01 PM

P: 8/30/2005 4:55:58 PM
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,931 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002	Stephan, you are such a card!! That asscher is amazing! Send it over my way willya?! I voted for 1 of course? Why? Size. ________________________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein
Posted: 8/30/2005 4:55:58 PM

P: 8/30/2005 4:57:58 PM
Kaleigh Ideal Rock Total Posts: 25,919 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2004	Yup, I looove #1, and size gets me every time!!! ____________________________ Piece of cake and a candle. ng gift
Posted: 8/30/2005 4:57:58 PM

P: 8/30/2005 4:58:24 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	Thank you Belle ! Am I wrong to say that number 1 is a classic ACA and number 2 a new line ACA? Which one will make my colleagues jalous under halogene lighting? Stephan
Posted: 8/30/2005 4:58:24 PM

P: 8/30/2005 4:59:40 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	Hi Mara! Long time! Did you vote for number one because you are planning to buy number 2? Stephan
Posted: 8/30/2005 4:59:40 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:08:22 PM
blueroses Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,221 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2004	Had to add that I voted for #2 ACCIDENTLY!!!! I meant to vote for #1, so just FYI re: the numbers. They both look amazing, and I know you like warmer colors, so go for that yummy BIG J!!!
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:08:22 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:12:47 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	Date: 8/30/2005 4:58:24 PM Author: QueenMum Thank you Belle ! Am I wrong to say that number 1 is a classic ACA and number 2 a new line ACA? Which one will make my colleagues jalous under halogene lighting? from what i understand about the differences between the two lines, you are correct. either one would make anyone jealous, but i guarantee that #1 is going to be a showstopper! especially under the halogens (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:12:47 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:22:20 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	Some people vote for number 2 without explaining why! Don't cheat! Stephan
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:22:20 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:22:58 PM
laney Ideal Rock Total Posts: 750 Last Post: 7/27/2006 Member Since: 12/18/2003	I voted for 2 (but 1 would get my vote just on size alone) What are the white marks in the idealscope of #1 in between the arrow points. Is that intentional light leakage... or not? #2 idealscope looked better. Anyone know..? Laney
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:22:58 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:27:48 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	For the leakage, I think it won't kill me. I'm not into 100% light return, but I'm a "bold flashes of intense fire under halogene lighting" addict. Stephan
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:27:48 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:44:23 PM
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004	How will this one be set? Can you use that beautiful setting???? Or do you keep that one, too?????
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:44:23 PM

P: 8/30/2005 5:47:53 PM
QueenMum Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,971 Last Post: 10/28/2009 Member Since: 2/13/2003	About the setting, we will decide on Monday in Houston. I don't know what to do with the old one. Stephan
Posted: 8/30/2005 5:47:53 PM

P: 8/30/2005 6:06:41 PM
Shay37 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,343 Last Post: 8/30/2008 Member Since: 3/2/2004	I like that #1 is bigger. You'll love the J. (you know you will) Also I think the old line is cut to have that pop in direct lighting, while the #2 is cut more for a balance (does quite well in direct, kills in ambient and diffuse) I think that's the difference. (#1 kills in direct, and is quite lovely in ambient and diffuse) If I'm wrong, don't shoot me. (I am not an expert, just a diamond nut) Shay ______________________________My therapist loves me. His name is Brian the Cutter.
Posted: 8/30/2005 6:06:41 PM

P: 8/30/2005 6:08:58 PM
JohnQuixote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,212 Last Post: 5/24/2008 Member Since: 9/9/2004	Date: 8/30/2005 5:22:58 PM Author: laney I voted for 2 (but 1 would get my vote just on size alone) What are the white marks in the idealscope of #1 in between the arrow points. Is that intentional light leakage... or not? #2 idealscope looked better. Anyone know..? Laney, those symmetrical points are intentional 'pinpoint leakage' and are a result of the style of cutting Classic ACA. They enhance qualities of contrast brilliance in a slightly different way than in New Line. The distinctions are very slight, so a casual observer may not immediately pick them out. Josh Rioux, a gem enthusiast and client, did a fun write up on the nuances, here. John __________________________ John Pollard Whiteflash Director of Education 2004-2007
Posted: 8/30/2005 6:08:58 PM

P: 8/30/2005 6:26:13 PM
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,931 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002	Date: 8/30/2005 4:59:40 PM Author: QueenMum Hi Mara! Long time! Did you vote for number one because you are planning to buy number 2? Hah ! No...that 'I' is too high-brow for me. You know I love a good 'J'. ________________________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein
Posted: 8/30/2005 6:26:13 PM

P: 8/30/2005 6:57:06 PM
Scott 00 Cut Rock Total Posts: 278 Last Post: 4/13/2007 Member Since: 5/27/2004	Hi Stephen, I am sorry to see that your Assher wasn't all that you wanted, it still remains one of the most memorable rings I have seen here to date. While both stones will offer a major presence... I think the increase in contrast briliance of #1 coupled with the added size (and ability to say 2.5cts+) would edge it to the winner circle. The VS1 is also an added plus if you care for "mind clean" stones, which I happen to appreciate. Good luck and can't wait to see how you set your choice. Best regards, Scott
Posted: 8/30/2005 6:57:06 PM

P: 8/30/2005 6:57:15 PM
sevens one Ideal Rock Total Posts: 9,537 Last Post: 9/8/2009 Member Since: 4/14/2004	I voted for #1. I'll give you one guess why........... ______________________________ "You kept making all the stops?" "Well, people kept ringing the bell!" ls gift
Posted: 8/30/2005 6:57:15 PM

P: 8/30/2005 7:07:00 PM
CountryBoy Rough Rock Total Posts: 46 Last Post: 11/19/2005 Member Since: 6/1/2005	I voted for the second ring because I like the cut/idealscope better and like the better grade of color. The clarity seems to be a near wash and both rings should look huge. Slightly larger size vs. Better cut and color = me liking the second option better.
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:07:00 PM

P: 8/30/2005 7:12:55 PM
Thegroom Rough Rock Total Posts: 40 Last Post: 12/6/2005 Member Since: 8/31/2003	Size is obviously a major difference, but does JohnQuixote or anyone else have a comment on the significant difference in crown height/angle between the two stones (14.7/34.1 vs. 15.7/34.9) and how that may effect their appearances?
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:12:55 PM

P: 8/30/2005 7:14:09 PM
Mara Ideal Rock Total Posts: 27,931 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 10/30/2002	I prefer 34.1 over 34.9... Also keep in mind Stephan likes the warmer stones! ________________________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:14:09 PM

P: 8/30/2005 7:20:36 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,227 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 8/30/2005 5:27:48 PM Author: QueenMum For the leakage, I think it won't kill me. I'm not into 100% light return, but I'm a 'bold flashes of intense fire under halogene lighting' addict. QM i like #1. i prefer leakage along the edge for better contrast and it's a tighter cut stone. #2....with a smaller table + more crown height = more fire? maybe? it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:20:36 PM

P: 8/30/2005 7:28:51 PM
Giangi Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,530 Last Post: 10/29/2006 Member Since: 1/23/2003	Hi Stephan! Long time no talk! I voted for no.1 as well. I know you like warmer stones, and size does make a difference . Now the Q is: how are you gonna set it? If I recall correctly, your stone is currently in a tension setting, isnt it? _____________ Omnia Mea Mecum Porto. Giangi
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:28:51 PM

P: 8/30/2005 8:12:33 PM
LadyluvsLuxury Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,264 Last Post: 1/21/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2005	I voted for one as well, it's beautiful :-) Did you make a choice?? _________________________________________________________________ It's hard to see the rainbow through the storm but it can't rain forever!
Posted: 8/30/2005 8:12:33 PM

P: 8/30/2005 8:13:46 PM
yellowfan Ideal Rock Total Posts: 711 Last Post: 10/5/2005 Member Since: 9/10/2004	I vote for 1 What will you do with your asscher??? **************************** Adopt a pet and save a life.
Posted: 8/30/2005 8:13:46 PM

P: 8/30/2005 8:16:27 PM
Patty Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,031 Last Post: 6/4/2008 Member Since: 12/7/2003	Date: 8/30/2005 5:08:22 PM Author: blueroses Had to add that I voted for #2 ACCIDENTLY!!!! I meant to vote for #1, so just FYI re: the numbers. They both look amazing, and I know you like warmer colors, so go for that yummy BIG J!!! Okay, I prefer #2 but I voted for #1 to balance out blueroses mistake. Now the voting should be accurate! I like the I better than a J and I like the idea of a "new line" with the bolder flashes even though I've never seen one!
Posted: 8/30/2005 8:16:27 PM

P: 8/30/2005 8:36:38 PM
blueroses Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,221 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2004	Thanks Patty!!
Posted: 8/30/2005 8:36:38 PM

P: 8/30/2005 9:03:38 PM
JohnQuixote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,212 Last Post: 5/24/2008 Member Since: 9/9/2004	Date: 8/30/2005 7:12:55 PM Author: Thegroom Size is obviously a major difference, but does JohnQuixote or anyone else have a comment on the significant difference in crown height/angle between the two stones (14.7/34.1 vs. 15.7/34.9) and how that may effect their appearances? Coupled with those pavilion angles both fall in the 'sweet' zone of overall high performance. Those configurations surround Tolkowsky and if you run them on the HCA I suspect they both land close to 1.0. The static ASETs look very similar with both 30 and 40 degrees of obscuration (the ideal-scope images tell that story). Thanks for asking. John __________________________ John Pollard Whiteflash Director of Education 2004-2007
Posted: 8/30/2005 9:03:38 PM

P: 8/30/2005 9:11:45 PM
valeria101 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 14,048 Last Post: 4/30/2006 Member Since: 8/29/2003	Oh noooo! Your asscher ring Stephan is such a beauty.... And so are these, of course. You had a H&A before and changed, no ? Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]
Posted: 8/30/2005 9:11:45 PM

P: 8/30/2005 9:13:42 PM
Maxine Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,394 Last Post: 10/25/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2004	Anyone have a pic of that ring handy??? Wasn't it a nice two tone gold?????
Posted: 8/30/2005 9:13:42 PM

P: 8/30/2005 9:17:41 PM
belle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,287 Last Post: 4/3/2008 Member Since: 11/19/2004	it is set in rose gold (.¸(`.¸¸.´)¸.) ¨`.¸ belle¸. ´¨ (¸.(¸.´ `.¸).¸)
Posted: 8/30/2005 9:17:41 PM

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