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 niceice.com doesn't have 58% Table

P:  8/17/2005 2:53:16 PM  
cqdiep
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Hey guys, the people at Niceice.com say that they don't carry any round diamonds with a 58% Table. Does that mean that a 58% Table diamond is necessarily bad? I know it depends on other factors too, such as crown and pav. angles. I also think that AGS allow the Table to go up to 60% for their Ideal cuts. The reason this caught my eye is because I just bought a 1 ct round diamond with the following specs:

Table - 58%
Depth - 61.4%
Crown - 33.5 deg.
Pav. - 43.7%
Pol/Sym - VG/VG

Based on these info, I would guess that the stone is about an AGS1 grade, and I don't think the 58% table throws it off by that much. What do you guys think????
Posted:  8/17/2005 2:53:16 PM

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P: 8/17/2005 2:58:38 PM
belle
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what are the dimensions on your stone?



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Posted:  8/17/2005 2:58:38 PM
P: 8/17/2005 3:37:02 PM
JohnQuixote
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The traditional AGS ideal parameters (pre 2005) allowed tables between 53-57%.  Anything larger was not allowed a 0 grade. 

Recently AGS has updated to a performance-based rather than proportions-based system and tables including and above 60% may qualify for the ideal grade, depending on other particulars and how they perform in the new metric.  This is fair because it allows for a greater range of taste while rewarding actual performance over 'blind' numbers.  Dealers won't necessarily adjust what they consider 'elite' and proven merely as a result of new lab approaches.

Nice Ice has a very high standard for what they carry.  Todd is quite discriminating and the goods he stocks fall within a narrow range that he considers the best.  This is the same with many of the vendors on PS.  We have similar tolerances we stay with for our top goods - with slight variations - based on experience and preference.

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Posted:  8/17/2005 3:37:02 PM
P: 8/17/2005 4:11:39 PM
cqdiep
cqdiep

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here are the dimensions for my stone:

6.59 X 6.64 X 4.06

I know that niceice.com carries only the best diamonds, so that's why they're so strict. I guess I would rather pay $5K for an AGS1 (this stone) than $12K for an AGS0 because I'm still a poor student. Would you guys classify this stone as an AGS1?

Posted:  8/17/2005 4:11:39 PM
P: 8/17/2005 7:54:11 PM
valeria101
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Date: 8/17/2005 4:11:39 PM
Author: cqdiep
here are the dimensions for my stone:

 I would rather pay $5K for an AGS1 (this stone) than $12K for an AGS0

 Heck, so would I!  How come the difference is that large !!!  Are the other grades the same ?

 If this other stone looks good, sure that. There is no reason in those numbers to reject it (try the CutAdviser under 'Tools' on top of this page for a reason). Now, of course the numbers are not everything and what not, but at least this is a start. If the seller can provide picture or there is some return policy allowing for a reality check ... there isn't much more left to talk about. Aside the story of the 7k price gap ? That is quite a bit.




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Posted:  8/17/2005 7:54:11 PM

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