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Thoughts on 'J' color? |
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| P: 11/8/2002 8:47:41 AM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
So if you have purchased a 'J' color diamond are you happy with it? Is it as great a value as it seems? Should I go lower in size and higher in quality? Ok, now talk amongst yourselves...
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 8:47:41 AM | |
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| P: 11/8/2002 9:02:41 AM | |
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Pricescope Administrator Total Posts: 8,265 Last Post: 1/5/2008 Member Since: 1/1/2000 |
it's a personal choice/taste, mate :)
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 9:02:41 AM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 9:05:18 AM | |
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StevL Ideal Rock Total Posts: 591 Last Post: 12/11/2007 Member Since: 1/1/2000 |
I have sold many J color diamonds over the years. I have never had one complaint. I know peoples opinions vary, but mine is if you can find a well cut J color, maybe add a little blue fluorescence and you can have a winner. You need to do a side by side comparison of J and higher colors, then you will know what you like and what your budget thinks is the right choice. Cheers, |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 9:05:18 AM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 9:36:20 AM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
How long you been in the business Steve? What would you do given the choice of a Ideal J or and Ideal H? The J is bigger and less $$. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 9:36:20 AM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 10:56:52 AM | |
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rsilvers Cut Rock Total Posts: 251 Last Post: 11/24/2002 Member Since: 10/26/2002 |
Depends how much bigger and if the size crosses a magic threshhold, like 1 ct. If the bigger one was 1.07 ct and the smaller one was 1.02 ct, then I would get the smaller one with better color. Also depends on how ideal each cut is, who certified each one, etc. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 10:56:52 AM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 11:20:49 AM | |
barry Cut Rock Total Posts: 440 Last Post: 12/1/2003 Member Since: 3/22/2001 |
Also depends a great deal on the Cut. A beautifully cut " J " diamond will appear bigger and face up whiter than its mediocre cut counterpart. We've sold "J" color SuperbCerts that 'face-up' 'H'. Barry www.superbcert.com
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 11:20:49 AM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 12:09:38 PM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
I have no certification of the 'J' colored stone, and the 'H' is EGL cert. The 'J' is 1.30 and the 'H' is 1.14. Quality is SI2 and SI1 respectively. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 12:09:38 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 12:15:43 PM | |
barry Cut Rock Total Posts: 440 Last Post: 12/1/2003 Member Since: 3/22/2001 |
Which EGL lab? Barry www.superbcert.com
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 12:15:43 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:00:41 PM | |
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StevL Ideal Rock Total Posts: 591 Last Post: 12/11/2007 Member Since: 1/1/2000 |
Answer to your question; 33 years I've been selling diamonds. I will have to *assume* the grading is correct and the diamonds are indeed cut the same(which I doubt) I would choose the smaller diamond with a little better color and a little better clarity. Now assuming the cut isn't exactly the same (which I'm sure it isn't) then I would want to view the two diamonds side by side before I would pass judgement. I just read this again before I posted it, I think I should have been a politician
Cheers, |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:00:41 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:02:07 PM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
Probably EGL in Israel or New York but that's speculation. I can't find it anywhere on the certificate. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:02:07 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:06:50 PM | |
barry Cut Rock Total Posts: 440 Last Post: 12/1/2003 Member Since: 3/22/2001 |
You can't find it on the Cert, that's odd. EGL-NY states that it is EGL-NY as should the other EGL Labs state their location. Are you sure the Cert is legit? Barry www.superbcert.com
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:06:50 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:10:25 PM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
The certificate has to be legit. I am buying the diamond from a friend who is a wholesaler. It's not possible that he would rip me off. It's really a magnificent stone. What other distinguishing characteristics would this certificate have? It is dated 8/10/02 if EGL has made any changes. I'm interested to hear back from you. Thanks. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:10:25 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:15:04 PM | |
barry Cut Rock Total Posts: 440 Last Post: 12/1/2003 Member Since: 3/22/2001 |
Did not mean to imply that at all. I believe the EGL Certs state their origin as the EGL-NY does. You may want to ask your friend about this. I'm sure there is a good explanation. Best wishes, Barry www.superbcert.com
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:15:04 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:19:42 PM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
Hey that's cool man, I know what you meant. I'm not going to ask him about it though because I don't want to insult him or embarass myself. I trust him. Besides, I am paying $4930 for a 1.14, H, SI1, Ideal diamond. The thing has amazing fire and blinds me when I look at it in sunlight (no joke). He hand picked this stone for me out of a huge inventory he had available. I mean, I was on the phone with the guy while he hand-searched dozens of loose stones on his desk. Not a bad deal eh? |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:19:42 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:24:25 PM | |
barry Cut Rock Total Posts: 440 Last Post: 12/1/2003 Member Since: 3/22/2001 |
Enjoy it! and once again best wishes to you! Barry www.superbcert.com
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| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:24:25 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 1:25:32 PM | |
jeasher Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/3/2002 Member Since: 11/7/2002 |
Thanks! |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 1:25:32 PM | |
| P: 11/8/2002 3:35:05 PM | |
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rsilvers Cut Rock Total Posts: 251 Last Post: 11/24/2002 Member Since: 10/26/2002 |
Looks like a great price. Maybe 10% to 20% off internet prices, which are already way less than store prices. Hard to know exactly without knowing everything about it, but you got a good deal for sure. |
| Posted: 11/8/2002 3:35:05 PM | |
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