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 Thoughts on 'J' color?

P:  11/8/2002 8:47:41 AM  
jeasher
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So if you have purchased a 'J' color diamond are you happy with it? Is it as great a value as it seems? Should I go lower in size and higher in quality? Ok, now talk amongst yourselves...

 


Posted:  11/8/2002 8:47:41 AM

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P: 11/8/2002 9:02:41 AM
Pricescope
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it's a personal choice/taste, mate :)



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Posted:  11/8/2002 9:02:41 AM
P: 11/8/2002 9:05:18 AM
StevL
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I have sold many J color diamonds over the years. I have never had one complaint. I know peoples opinions vary, but mine is if you can find a well cut J color, maybe add a little blue fluorescence and you can have a winner.

You need to do a side by side comparison of J and higher colors, then you will know what you like and what your budget thinks is the right choice.

Cheers,
Steve

Posted:  11/8/2002 9:05:18 AM
P: 11/8/2002 9:36:20 AM
jeasher
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How long you been in the business Steve? What would you do given the choice of a Ideal J or and Ideal H? The J is bigger and less $$.

Posted:  11/8/2002 9:36:20 AM
P: 11/8/2002 10:56:52 AM
rsilvers
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Depends how much bigger and if the size crosses a magic threshhold, like 1 ct. If the bigger one was 1.07 ct and the smaller one was 1.02 ct, then I would get the smaller one with better color. Also depends on how ideal each cut is, who certified each one, etc.

Posted:  11/8/2002 10:56:52 AM
P: 11/8/2002 11:20:49 AM
barry
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Also depends a great deal on the Cut.

A beautifully cut " J " diamond will appear bigger and
face up whiter than its mediocre cut counterpart.

We've sold "J" color SuperbCerts that 'face-up'
'H'.

Barry
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Posted:  11/8/2002 11:20:49 AM
P: 11/8/2002 12:09:38 PM
jeasher
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I have no certification of the 'J' colored stone, and the 'H' is EGL cert. The 'J' is 1.30 and the 'H' is 1.14. Quality is SI2 and SI1 respectively.

Posted:  11/8/2002 12:09:38 PM
P: 11/8/2002 12:15:43 PM
barry
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Which EGL lab?

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Posted:  11/8/2002 12:15:43 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:00:41 PM
StevL
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Answer to your question; 33 years I've been selling diamonds.

I will have to *assume* the grading is correct and the diamonds are indeed cut the same(which I doubt) I would choose the smaller diamond with a little better color and a little better clarity.

Now assuming the cut isn't exactly the same (which I'm sure it isn't) then I would want to view the two diamonds side by side before I would pass judgement.

I just read this again before I posted it, I think I should have been a politician

Cheers,
Steve

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:00:41 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:02:07 PM
jeasher
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Probably EGL in Israel or New York but that's speculation. I can't find it anywhere on the certificate.

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:02:07 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:06:50 PM
barry
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You can't find it on the Cert, that's odd.

EGL-NY states that it is EGL-NY as should the other
EGL Labs state their location.
Are you sure the Cert is legit?

Barry
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Posted:  11/8/2002 1:06:50 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:10:25 PM
jeasher
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The certificate has to be legit. I am buying the diamond from a friend who is a wholesaler. It's not possible that he would rip me off. It's really a magnificent stone. What other distinguishing characteristics would this certificate have? It is dated 8/10/02 if EGL has made any changes. I'm interested to hear back from you.

Thanks.

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:10:25 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:15:04 PM
barry
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Did not mean to imply that at all.

I believe the EGL Certs state their origin
as the EGL-NY does. You may want to ask your friend
about this. I'm sure there is a good explanation.

Best wishes,

Barry
www.superbcert.com

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:15:04 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:19:42 PM
jeasher
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Hey that's cool man, I know what you meant. I'm not going to ask him about it though because I don't want to insult him or embarass myself. I trust him. Besides, I am paying $4930 for a 1.14, H, SI1, Ideal diamond. The thing has amazing fire and blinds me when I look at it in sunlight (no joke). He hand picked this stone for me out of a huge inventory he had available. I mean, I was on the phone with the guy while he hand-searched dozens of loose stones on his desk. Not a bad deal eh?

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:19:42 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:24:25 PM
barry
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Enjoy it! and once again best wishes to you!

Barry
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Posted:  11/8/2002 1:24:25 PM
P: 11/8/2002 1:25:32 PM
jeasher
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Thanks!

Posted:  11/8/2002 1:25:32 PM
P: 11/8/2002 3:35:05 PM
rsilvers
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Looks like a great price. Maybe 10% to 20% off internet prices, which are already way less than store prices. Hard to know exactly without knowing everything about it, but you got a good deal for sure.

Posted:  11/8/2002 3:35:05 PM

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