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 Cost Calculation for Importing Diamond from US to Canada

P:  7/9/2005 2:30:52 PM  
Detox
Detox

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Last Post: 8/18/2006
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Calling all Canadians (and those who know the answer)

I am considering purchasing a diamond from a US Vendor and having the diamond shipped to Toronto, Canada. 
As I understand it;

1. I am not responsible for the state tax from where the diamond was purhcased
2. I am responsible for PST and GST
3. I am responsible for 10% excise tax (luxury tax)
4. Exchange rate of USD to CAD must be taken into account.

Which Formula is correct:

1.  Price(USD) x Exchange Rate x 1.25 (assuming 15% sales tax and 10% excise tax)

or

2. Price(USD) x Exchange Rate x 1.10 (10% Excise tax) x 1.15 (15% sales tax)

Basically my question is do you pay the PST and GST on top of the excise tax? (ie. tax on tax)

Many Thanks

Detox


Posted:  7/9/2005 2:30:52 PM

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P: 7/9/2005 9:52:30 PM
perl8429
perl8429

Rough Rock
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Yup!  A friend of mine bought a ring from the states, and had to pay the excise tax, plus the GST and the exchange rate.  I don't think he had to pay PST since he did not buy the diamond in Canada.

Good Luck
perl

Posted:  7/9/2005 9:52:30 PM
P: 7/10/2005 8:52:41 PM
bedubyah
bedubyah

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Detox,

Fellow Canadian here.

This may come as a shock to you the excise tax is only 8% now .  Its kind of a misconception that it is still at 10% - I beleive its being phased out slowly or scaled back to a lower %. Check out the following link:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/et/currate/currate-e.html

Also, I think that you only pay PST on something if you buy it within your province (i.e. I live in Saskatchewan and if I was to order a diamond online fro a dealer in BC then I wouldn't pay PST). GST still apllies.

As to which formula - I am not sure but I don't think you should have to pay tax on a tax??

I hear some people buy the diamond from a dealer in the US and then go on a holiday and pick it up and propose down there - if you decide to claim it as you come back is your choice

Posted:  7/10/2005 8:52:41 PM
P: 7/11/2005 1:31:43 AM
Detox
Detox

Rough Rock
Total Posts: 66
Last Post: 8/18/2006
Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
Thankyou very much for the responses.

I have finally settled on the specs of the diamond I am after, the issue now is cost and how to calculate it. Even using a worst case scenario of 10% excise tax and 15% sales tax, I still find that purchasing a diamond from a US Vendor is approximately $2000CAD cheaper. 

I understand that the all of the different vendors I have talked to need to make a profit, but when I ask for GIA or AGS certed stones I am always told, "you pay a premium for that" which is reflected in the price against the non GIA AGS certed stones.

That being said, on the weekend I viewed an AGS000 stone and a similar spec's GEMSCAN stone and they both looked stunning. The AGS stone cost signficantly more than the GEMSCAN stone though.  However, if I can purchase the AGS000 stone from the US for even less than the price of the GEMSCAN stone offered in Canada I would be assured a great stone at a lesser price.

Wow I am confused.

Posted:  7/11/2005 1:31:43 AM

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